Fred, Yes, full agreement on the ferocity of the great lakes. I sailed the Chicago to Michigan City race in June of 1980 on an Erickson 39 as the navigator and for the stormy return the foredeck man. I still have the clipping from the Chicago Tribune stating 19 foot waves. I believe 3 boats were lost to swamping on the return from Michigan City to Chicago. Out of 9 crew, there were 3 of us standing for the return, the skipper, his girlfriend, and me. The girlfriend, though a stalwart lass, was later forced to retired with a broken nose. The other 6 were below making a mess. The biggest problem was hypothermia due to the North wind and the very cold water. I had hands that turned into claws making it very difficult to get the storm jib hanked on and sheets tied to the clew. We never raised the jib because the skipper was content to do 9 knots with a triple reefed main. The trip over had been a downwind drifter with temperatures in the high 80's, the usual drunken party, and a ver y fresh breeze and hung over crew for the start of the race. A front came through and everything went to hell in probably an hour after the start. All in all a fun ride that taught me a good lesson about sobriety on the water. I was 26 and too full of energy.
John Maturo Ashe, Baltic/C&C 39 Branford, CT -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 104, Issue 31 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Companionway hood (Bill Coleman) 2. Lake Superior storm (Frederick G Street) 3. Re: Lake Superior storm (dwight) 4. Re: Lake Superior storm (Ebay) 5. Sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 (Ted Drossos) 6. Re: Lake Superior storm (Wally Bryant) 7. Able bodied crew available in Toronto Area (Jean-Francois J Rivard) 8. Re: boat on the rocks (was Lake Superior storm) (Wally Bryant) 9. Re: Able bodied crew available in Toronto Area (Colin Kilgour) 10. Re: boat on the rocks (was Lake Superior storm) (Frederick G Street) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:20:13 -0400 From: "Bill Coleman" <colt...@verizon.net> To: <mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net>, <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Companionway hood Message-ID: <019801cfcd34$a15f6210$e41e2630$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Unless your hood is different than mine, all it does is keep rain and waves from getting in between the slider and forward part of the companionway, and protect and hide the tracks and slider. I think you want it open all along the bottom, or the water won't be able to drain properly. I think what you are asking is simply how to tighten up the screw holes? If so, what I did on mine was to ream out the holes a little with my handy Dremel tool and an eighth inch rasp. Then I inserted some SS helicoils, I think #10 NC, put a little vaseline on the screws, screwed them in the helicoils so I could remove them, and bedded them in the holes with thickened West System epoxy. Worked like a charm. Bill Coleman C&C 39 -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Crombie via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am planning on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning the gunk underneath it). What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on? 4200? Silicon? Any advice would be appreciated. There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to seal the entire underside or not. Mine only appears to have sealant around the screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the companionway!) , so I'll probably stick with that method. Thanks, Mike Atacama C&C 33 Mk II Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell. _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:08:58 -0500 From: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Lake Superior storm Message-ID: <33e4ba84-3e16-4ebf-82f9-cfd9daa78...@postaudio.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" There?s currently a nasty low passing over Lake Superior; buoy data from two hours ago lists wave height at 14.8 feet with an average period of 7.1 seconds. I keep saying Lake Superior is more like the ocean than a lake; I guess this should help prove that. I?m just glad I?m not out in it... The ?Gales of November? are early this year. 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I keep saying Lake Superior is more like the ocean than a lake; I guess this should help prove that. I'm just glad I'm not out in it... The "Gales of November" are early this year. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8146 - Release Date: 09/03/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140910/2f1a79f3/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:19:20 -0400 From: Ebay <j...@svpaws.net> To: dwight <dwight...@gmail.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Lake Superior storm Message-ID: <a430f885-4bf3-4e87-ac6d-f71227f3d...@svpaws.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I was going to say - period of 7.1 seconds is not open ocean and yes, very very mean John Sent from my iPad > On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:18 PM, dwight via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > That would be a mean ocean?and a very mean lake?good weather to stay > at home and enjoy the gardens > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35MKII, Alianna > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Frederick G Street via CnC-List > Sent: September 10, 2014 6:09 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Lake Superior storm > > There?s currently a nasty low passing over Lake Superior; buoy data from two > hours ago lists wave height at 14.8 feet with an average period of 7.1 > seconds. > > I keep saying Lake Superior is more like the ocean than a lake; I guess this > should help prove that. I?m just glad I?m not out in it... > > The ?Gales of November? are early this year. > > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8146 - Release Date: > 09/03/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(4 total) The foam adhesive rings that hold the exciter in place has a very aggressive adhesive. I did however sand the backside of the cockpit seat backs to create a very smooth surface. Final grit was 400. The exciter sticks much better to smooth surfaces. There is some information about the specific sound exciters that I installed located in the description on YouTube. When the cncphotoalbum.com site had the FORUM functioning, I had posted some still photos of the actual exciter installat! ion with an explanation of the installation. I guess that's gone now unless Stu can set up the FORUM again. Ted Drossos C&C 29-2 H2OT Long Island, NY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140910/442d4d0d/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 02:53:49 +0000 From: Wally Bryant <w...@wbryant.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Lake Superior storm Message-ID: <54110ebd.9060...@wbryant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Yikes. Is there a term for that? Square waves are when the height equals the period, but that's twice as bad. I was just sitting here worrying about Odile. <www.eebmike.com> The forecast track *was* to go straight up the Sea of Cortez, but it now looks like it'll hit Cabo and La Paz dead on. The outer edges are just hitting here and it's three days away. Listening on the radio, there's a boat on the beach already. It's not that bad, so they must have had a foul up with ground tackle. Don't know any more. Wal Fred wrote: > There?s currently a nasty low passing over Lake Superior; buoy data from two > hours ago lists wave height at 14.8 feet with an average period of 7.1 > seconds. > > I keep saying Lake Superior is more like the ocean than a lake; I guess this > should help prove that. I?m just glad I?m not out in it... > > The ?Gales of November? are early this year. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:10:55 -0400 From: Jean-Francois J Rivard <jfriv...@us.ibm.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Able bodied crew available in Toronto Area Message-ID: <ofe4343694.e2c5174e-on87257d50.001c7722-1410412255...@us.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Skinny crazy guy with a beard, and a recently acquired skinny crazy woman on board, and a boat that looks bad from 100 meters away. Guys like that give Crazy Gringos like me a bad name. Heck, the Mexican Navy showed up to help, and a half dozen folks got out of bed to help tow it off the rocks. The captain seemed to think he was a victim of an Act of Cod (sic) and he deserved all the assistance. Wal -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:14:49 -0400 From: Colin Kilgour <charliekilo...@gmail.com> To: Jean-Francois J Rivard <jfriv...@us.ibm.com>, "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Able bodied crew available in Toronto Area Message-ID: <cakr-nknf-hpw1u0ffz7jtr+c__xufksqszqur7cf+ztm3zd...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" There are always boats looking for race crew here, but if you're not in the network of sailors it can be hard to get started. If he has any sailing connections he should leverage them. If not, print up a flyer and post it at all the chandlers and yacht clubs in town. They all have bulletin boards for such things. You can also hang around the docks at some of the bigger clubs on race night and let it be known you're looking to crew. There's almost always someone with a crew member stuck in traffic or at the office. (Of course, you have to slip past "security", but that's dead simple at most clubs - particularly on race night) Most clubs also have crew and associate member categories, but I wouldn't fork out for one of them until he's found a boat to crew on, because he could end up forking out for a membership at one club and then getting a ride on a boat from another club. (As a specific tip, Port Credit Yacht Club runs its J24 fall series every weekend until freeze up. Those guys often need crew as the weather gets colder and people start to think about winter activities) Good luck. Cheers, Colin On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Y'all, > > I've been talking about my sailing adventures to my young co-worker friend > from Toronto and he's interested in crewing. > > On our lake the clubs have "associate membership" to allow folks without > boats to be members. This way they are able to access the "crew wanted" > side of the club website and crew on different boats. > > Do you guys have similar options on Lake Ontario? My friend is interested > in sailing but is just getting started in life and does not have the spare > coin for a boat. He's a really nice guy, has no sailing experience, but is > very bright and pretty athletic > > Please let me know if you need crew or can recommend clubs for him to get > started. > > Regards, > > -Francois > 1990 34+ "Take Five" > Lake Lanier, Georgia > > Sent from IBM Notes Traveler > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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