Ken,
To see what I mean, please see my launching video from this past May
(http://youtu.be/lV2KBUMb6IY) — seems like only yesterday — I need to move
south.
Anyways, starting at about the 2:05 mark, you can see the depth of the
rudder as compared to the keel. They are very close.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
On Sep 27, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <[email protected]>
wrote:
Ken,
Never measured the draft of the rudder on the Enterprise, but I would
say it’s very close to the keel depth of 4.92 feet. When the boat out of the
water and the keel is on blocks, the rudder is pretty close to ground.
I can measure it for you when the boat hauls in 2 weeks :-(
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <[email protected]>
wrote:
I intended to send this to the list and didn't hit "Reply to All", whoops.
Ken H.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ken Heaton <[email protected]>
Date: 27 September 2014 09:20
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37/40 + Pricing (
To: John Pennie <[email protected]>
That isn't actually true John. The draft of the rudder in those drawings is 5'
6". The draft of the CB version's keel is listed at 4' 11" so the CB version
has to use a shorter rudder. Perhaps Ed can tell us the draft of the rudder on
the Enterprise?
Here is a photo of the CB version:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-w_2kz_b_09w/Tca8kZgc_SI/AAAAAAAABdg/PhjJ2NEmq2I/s1600/photo.JPG
Full Keel version here:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-doNhtyaGUq4/TX__SDQGyKI/AAAAAAAAO-Y/IcZ6dV4z9oU/w1534-h1023-no/20101121_Salazar%2Bin%2BCradle_0013.JPG
Ken H.
On 26 September 2014 23:35, John Pennie <[email protected]> wrote:
Great comparison. More interesting - take a look at the rudder. In all cases
they have the shoal draft rudder which would work with the centerboard model.
This is the same thing we saw on our 51 of similar vintage. Apparently they
would change the keel but not alter the rudder. Rob Ball hand some interesting
thoughts on that when I spoke to him in the early 2000’s about redesigning the
rudder. Curious if that is just drawings or in fact held true in production.
John
On Sep 26, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Take a look at the three illustrations linked below:
>
> This is the drawing for the 37+ (also known as the 37/40+, and after 1992,
> the 40+)
>
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5997
>
> Notice the "Beaver Tail" on the bottom of the keel. This is the 7' 3" (or
> 4") draft keel.
>
> Now look at this one. This is the 37XL, (also known as the 37/40XL, and
> after 1992, the 40XL)
>
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5998
>
> Notice it is a bit deeper and has no "Beaver Tail" and has somewhere between
> 7' 10" to 8' 2" of draft.
>
> Finally, the 37R (also known as the 37/40R)
>
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2563
>
> Same keel as the XL, more or less.
>
> The wing keels were fitted to both the 37+ and XL if you ordered it that way.
> Same for the Centreboard Keel as far as I know.
>
> I have photos online somewhere, I'll have a look.
>
> Ken H.
>
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