I also bought my boat in Racine and got a multi-page report from the 
recommended surveyor. The survey was dishonest from start to finish, had the 
seller's interest in mind and future survey business. Had it been honest, I 
could have gotten another $10,000 off the sell price. The moral of the story is 
do your own survey.

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> From: Robert Abbott <[email protected]>
> To: Brent Driedger <[email protected]>,    "[email protected]"
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> There is a buyer for everything, at the right price.
> 
> When we were looking for a boat in 2005-06, there were three (3) C&C 
> 32's for sale here in Halifax, N.S.......looked at them all.  Looked at 
> a C&C 30 MKI and Mirage 32 here as well.
> 
> Ended up buying our boat from Racine Riverside Marina, Racine, 
> Wisconsin.....one owner, professionally maintained, adequately equipped, 
> fresh water boat.  The purchase price, exchange rate and transportation 
> cost to truck it here cost us approx. $8,000 less than what we would 
> have paid for any of the local boats.  We also got a new 10' Zodiac 
> thrown in.  And I have sold 3 sails that came with the boat that I will 
> never use.
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> I never traveled to Racine to view the boat.....paid a surveyor about 
> $350 USD for a 23 page report....that was the selling point, the survey. 
>  I would do that no matter where I was buying a boat.
> 
> I understand many buyers would never do what we did, buy a boat unseen 
> so far away.  Would I do it again, absolutely.
> 
> I wish this 32 seller well.....if he gets close to his asking price, it 
> bodes well for all us C&C owners.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
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>> On 2014/10/26 10:54 PM, Brent Driedger wrote:
>> I'll chime in on this as Bowline Yachts was the broker for my boat backwhen 
>> I bought it and I know the owner well. At first glance the prices they ask 
>> seem high and become the frequent talk at the club but with respect to the 
>> company's owner I'll provide a little insight to explain thoughnot 
>> necessarily justify the prices.
>> In central Canada here there is not much option for buying used sailboats. 
>> The market is not saturated by any means and the stock of quality used boats 
>> available is thin. This usually means pay what the owner wants oroutsource 
>> to the south and pay for exchange, shipping, border brokerage, flights to 
>> and from the location, permits and lots of survey charges. When you total it 
>> all up the prices end up being fairly close to what Bowline typically 
>> charges. Then add to that there is the comfort level of knowing the history 
>> of the local boats, their owners and background. Furtherto that, our season 
>> is short so all of these boats are out of water for 7 months of the year. 
>> The boats are in fresh water the remaining 5 and onLake of the Woods there's 
>> little swell to speak of even in storms. The biggest hazard is grounding and 
>> unfortunately most sailboats there have touched bottom.  The remainder will 
>> some day. The rigs although 30 plus years old show no corrosion or acid rain 
>> pitting. Gener
> ally outside of wet decks or blisters, a 35 year old boat is in 20 year old 
> condition if it was decently maintained.
>> I agree that $65000 for an 84 32 is very high but the price will appealto 
>> those who want a quick painless purchase with background confidence of a 
>> quality fresh water boat. It may include a slip too which at my harbour is 
>> impossible to get now. I would expect a fair bit of negotiation will bring 
>> it closer to reality as well.
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Brent Driedger
>> C&C 27v
>> Lake Winnipeg
>> 
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>>> On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> While I think this appears to be a nicely equipped and well maintainedboat, 
>>> I think the owner is overly optimistic with his asking price.  We bought 
>>> our boat in 2006 for half that price and it was a well maintained,fresh 
>>> water, one owner boat.
>>> 
>>> Sure would like to hear any and all comments on this!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.bowlineyachts.ca/sailboats/1984candclegacy.html
>>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32 - 84
>>> Halifax, N.S.
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