Hi Rob,

Your knowledge of the history of C&C designs is truly amazing. I enjoyed 
reading your tutorial. 

I never knew Eric was in the kitchen business.  After I and a bunch of others 
left the faltering C&C, I spent 10 years in brick manufacturing which landed me 
in Des Moines, Iowa.  Exiting that business, I bought an Architectural Millwork 
company and two years later a kitchen cabinet manufacturing and remodeling 
company. We ran those two for 20 years, quadrupled their size and sold them to 
retire on our trawler.  And we did a few boat interior remodels as well, both 
power and sail. Our C&C 29 "Illusion" is still winning races on Lake Rathbun, 
in SE Iowa.

We are docked at the Naval Air Station Marina in Jacksonville, FL where Ann has 
been undergoing tests at Mayo Clinic.  As I look out into the mooring area I 
can see the distinctive lines of a C&C 35 MK I.  A few docks is a Landfall 38.  
It is amazing how many C&C's we see as we travel up and down the ICW each year. 
 They are still the best looking boats on the water !

Cheers from Queen Ann's Revenge,

Hank

 


On Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:32 PM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List 
<[email protected]> wrote:
 


Hi John,

Another interesting mid Cuthbertson and Cassian design, before the creation of 
C&C Yachts. Big George tells me that Psyche II, designed for Bob Grant, a 
future Commodore of RCYC, was essentially a sister to Ivanhoe II which 
proceeded Psyche by a couple of years. Ivanhoe II was design number 64-4 for 
Comm. Ray Engholm, also of RCYC. She was built in aluminium at Engholm's 
aluminium fabrication company Macotta. In actual fact Erich Bruckmann installed 
the interior in Ivanhoe after he left Metro Marine and had gone into the 
kitchen installation business. It was probability the building the interior 
onIvanhoe which kept him in the boat business. The building of the interior at 
the same time as the hull led to all sorts of problems with the aluminium welds 
in the hull, but that's another story!  Psyche was design number 66-4, and 
followed the Redwing 30, Inferno II, and Red Jacket, and immediately preceded 
the Redline 41 and the Whitby 45. Therefore, unlike
 Ivanhoe, Psyche was designed with a separate keel and rudder. She was also 
built in aluminium by Enholm's company Macotta, but I'm not sure who installed 
the interior. Possibly Dick Kneulman at Ontario Yachts.  Ivanhoe, which had a 
full keel and attached rudder was also later modified to the separate keel and 
rudder configuration. Neither boat was specifically successful on the race 
course, since the Ivanhoe hull lines preceded Red Jacket, and Engholm himself 
was a tad more conservative then Perry Connolly in the type of boat he wanted. 
The Ivanhoe/Psyche "sisters" were part of the transition in yacht design taking 
place in the 1960s. It's great to see Psyche still looking so good. A 
remarkable boat. 

Bob Grant would be part of a number of Canada's Cup syndicates, and later owned 
a C&C 48, one of George's last designs at C&C, before he handed design 
responsibilities over to Rob Ball. Bob Grant also bought an Aurora 40, I 
believe, Mark Elis' first design after parting company from C&C Custom Sales. 

Rob




On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:20 PM, J Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

The 1968 43' Aluminum PSYCHE II:
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>http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f152/43-aluminum-c-and-c-custom-sloop-1968-42-000-florida-132804.html
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>Would be grand to learn more about the history, building techniques and 
>sailing characteristics.
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>Cheers
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>J
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>On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List 
><[email protected]> wrote:
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>The first six were built by Kurt Beister, on the East Frisian
Islands in northern Germany. Most likely designed by Henry Gruber, but modified 
for North American requirements by Cuthbertson and Cassian with the addition of 
a CCA type yawl rig and the modification of the ballast casting to add more 
lead. CN35 Hull #1, Ca Va, was owned by Ian Morch, who would go on to found 
Belleville Marine and become the first President of C&C Yachts. Ian just passed 
away about two weeks ago. Hull #6, Carousel. the first to be built by Cliff 
Richardson in Ontario, but finished by Dick Kneulman at Ontario Yachts, was 
owned by Perry Connolly, who, of course would soon commission Cuthbertson and 
Cassian to design a 40 footer named Red Jacket. Amazing to see hull #10 
available. A truly historic vessel. 
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>>Rob Mazza
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>>On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>><[email protected]> wrote:
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>>And I thought some of us had "old" boats.  Take a peek at this:
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>>><http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1962/C%26C-Canadian-Northern-Hull-%2310-2743930/Mobile/AL/United-States#.VE7zJhZNfh8>
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>>>Note the "Star" on the bow cove stripe.
>>>
>>>Dennis C.
>>>Touche' 35-1 #83
>>>Mandeville, LA
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