The echo-charger is great for mixed chemistry battery setups such as your
planning.  AGM for start and Flooded for house.  Each type of battery
requires different charge profiles.  With the same chemisty the ACR allows
for a higher current charge to switched bank.  The echos are limited to
20Amps...IIRC.  I too am eager to hear why Rich is partial to the echo.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mar 27, 2015 2:39 AM, "Peter Fell via CnC-List" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>   Hey Rich
>
> Could you elaborate on your thoughts re combiners / charge relays vs.
> echo-chargers? I'm looking at options right now myself.
>
> For Edd, is there any benefit to having a solar controller that is
> dual-bank? I'm not sure which one you are proposing (have?) but I'm
> wondering if the 'programming' of the distribution of charge to each bank
> will conflict with the voltage sensing and resulting operation of the ACR
> (or perhaps think of it the other way round).
>
> For me I'm puzzling over a similar situation. My setup is proposed to be a
> house bank of 2 x Group 27 flooded in parallel with a small (U1?) AGM
> 'start' (I'm only starting an Atomic Four) ... but set it up so that the
> 'start' is actually a 'reserve' battery ... I'll use the house bank for
> starting and house duties and connect my alternator to the house bank. So
> my 1-2-Both switch becomes a battery 'use' switch ... normally just used
> between Off and 1. But my battery charger is a ProMariner ProSport 20amp
> 3-bank charger, that distributes charge to each bank depending on SOC (so
> for example, connected to 3 batteries it could provide 2amps, 2amps and
> 16amps) and also has multi-charging stages. It also wants to have one set
> of leads connected to at most one battery ... even if they are in a bank.
> So in my setup, 2 sets of leads to the house, one to each battery, and one
> set to the reserve. ProMariner tech support says that a combiner or ACR
> will not cause any issues but I'm not so sure this would be the case.  Blue
> Sea recommends setting up to turn off the ACR when multiple bank chargers /
> multi-stage chargers are used. So I probably will install a switch on the
> ground, like Edd plans, and/or a relay to trigger on energizing the AC
> circuit to the battery charger and break the ground to turn off the Blue
> Sea ACR. I've also been looking at a Yandina Combiner 100 ... it has
> similar capability to be turned off (although with it, it has a ground
> connection but a separate 'remote' connection that is used to trigger the
> combiner off by closing to ground). Now I may in the future put in a solar
> panel. I actually have a good controller with single bank connection ...
> would certainly work through the combiner or ACR but probably wouldn't be
> used at the same time as the charger (solar alongside / underway during
> summer months and charger only during the winter when I'm running cabin
> heater / dehumidifier anyway).
>
> I don' think, by the way, that the Echo-charger can be turned 'off'?
>
> Peter Fell
> Sidney, BC
> Cygnet
> C&C 27 MkIII
>
>
>  *From:* Knowles Rich via CnC-List <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:19 PM
> *To:* Edd Schillay <[email protected]> ; cnc-list Cnc-List
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft
>
> No major problems that I can see. I'm not a big fan of battery combiners
> for charging purposes and would prefer to see a XANTREX EchoCharge unit in
> its place.
>
> Check out
> http://xantrex.com/power-products/power-accessories/auxiliary-battery-charger.aspx
>
> Rich Knowles
> Nanaimo BC.
> INDIGO LF38
> For sale and buried in snow in Halifax, NS.
>
>
>  On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Listers,
>
> Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the
> Enterprise.
>
> Here is link to my draft setup:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf
>
>
> Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any
> respectful wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers
> input or just to say "Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our C&C
> List, you amateur hack."
>
> Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my C&C.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
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