Oh-oh, we're getting into Fourth Mode territory here. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC
On 25 April 2015 at 17:24, Kurt Heckert via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: > So how fast is a 35-2 as a new owner of a '75, I would like to know what > to expect. > > Kurt Heckert > 35 mk II ( soon to be Heart & Soul) > > ------------------------------ > * From: * dwight veinot via CnC-List <[email protected]>; > * To: * Rick Brass <[email protected]>; [email protected] < > [email protected]>; > * Subject: * Re: Stus-List 35 modified keel > * Sent: * Sat, Apr 25, 2015 9:58:46 AM > > not a very well sailed 35-2 I suspect > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna* > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > [email protected] > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> My 38 mk2, Imzadi, has a 5’3” nominal draft (with cruising gear it’s >> probably more like 5’6”) after shortening the keel and installing a torpedo >> bulb made by Mars Metals. I took 10” off the end of the keel (800 pounds if >> I recall correctly) and installed a bulb made by Mars that weighed around >> 1150 pounds. >> >> >> >> Allen, Pamlico Sound may even be a bit more shallow then Albemarle Sound. >> The deepest spot between here and the Atlantic is about 24 feet, and most >> is less than that. And I plan to go to the Bahamas one of these days, so >> the original 6’1” draft just would not do. >> >> >> >> I lost some pointing ability because of the change, probably one or two >> degrees of apparent wind. I used to be able to sail up to about 29-30 >> apparent, now it is in the 32-33 range. When I was racing seriously with a >> good deck sweeper headsail, I could still outpoint a 35-2 that raced in the >> Pamlico Sailing Club. He outran me downwind, so the two boats were pretty >> evenly matched. >> >> >> >> I suspect that the end plate effect of my flattened torpedo bulb (it is >> about twice as wide as it is high) has some of the same impact on the keel >> that your wing has. Basically, I’m pretty happy with the modification. >> Particularly when I am sailing in skinny water (like every time I go out). >> >> >> >> >> >> Rick Brass >> >> *Imzadi *C&C 38 mk 2 >> >> *la Belle Aurore *C&C 25 mk1 >> >> Washington, NC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Allen >> Miles via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:39 PM >> *To:* robertlmazza; [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 35 modified keel >> >> >> >> Just an observation and maybe not relevant for a C&C 35. >> >> >> >> I have a C&C 30-2 with a shoal keel, my close friend Richard Stoltenhoff >> had a sister ship SeaCure with the deep keel, Both boats were race >> equipped white sail boats. I've sailed both boats and they were well >> matched in the winds we had on LI Sound. >> >> >> >> When Richard moved south to the Albemarle Sound (20 foot average depth >> where we sail, but tight 6' entrance to the creek and docks), he had his >> keel shortened and a Mars Metal bulb applied. We raced his boat after my >> admiral decided she didn't want her boat dinged by "ignorant" racers. >> Although SeaCure remained fast and retained her stability with the bulb, we >> had great difficulty fetching marks. She just wouldn't point as high as >> Septima and the extra tacks or overstands just killed us. >> >> >> >> After Septima was hit by a lightening strike, I had her short hauled and >> ironically she was placed adjacent to SeaCure on the hard. I looked at >> both keel stubs and they seemed to my eye to be identical. My lead keel >> portion however had significant additional longitudinal area. His deep >> mounted bulb was offset by my wing and stability was very similar. My >> lateral resistance though was much greater and we could climb our way to a >> mark without pinching. >> >> >> >> Allen Miles >> >> s/v Septima >> Hampton, VA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: robertlmazza via CnC-List >> Sent: Apr 23, 2015 2:19 PM >> To: Paul Baker , C&C Mailing List >> Subject: Re: Stus-List 35 modified keel >> >> >> Interestingly enough I've just written an article on Mars Metal for the >> next issue of Professiomal Boatbuilder Magazine. Their ability to provide >> not only a bolt on two piece bulb but the design service to recommend the >> weight of bulb to achieve the same sailing stability as the deep draft keel >> is discussed in the article. It has been a very successful program for the >> company. >> >> >> >> Rob Mazza >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Samsung Mobile >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> >> From: Paul Baker via CnC-List >> >> Date:04-22-2015 11:56 PM (GMT-05:00) >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Stus-List 35 modified keel >> >> >> >> I'm sure you've all seen this, I often accidentally delete list emails >> without reading them, anyway, an interesting keel mod: >> >> http://www.sailnet.com/forums/general-discussion-sailing-related/197361-c-c-35-mod-bulb-keel-effect.html >> >> Cheers, >> Paul >> Orange Crush >> 1974 27 MkII >> Sidney, BC >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> [email protected] >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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