What the ? That didn't post very well... Just wanted to congratulate Pete S for his win. Also shout out to Adrian Van der Hoven for single handed win.
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Re: Off topic Windows 10 (Danny Haughey) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 15:17:46 -0400 > From: Steve Hood <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List 2015 trans-superior > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150807/0f524727/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:23:59 -0400 > From: Joel Aronson <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > Message-ID: > <CAEL16P90S1eUpLqzehVcU7Li47+YoUgGmr_chTFE9==xpzg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I had a chance to play with it more this afternoon while "working" from > home. > > I reconfigured the network so we could print from other computers to the > Epson printer plugged into the Win 10 machine. I think there was some sort > of error sent to the Epson, and ultimately turning it off and on solved > everything. not sure if the reconfigure was necessary. > > OpenCPN works fine. Office 2007 and Outlook 2010 work fine, as does my > weather routing software, Squid. The "All Programs" in the Start menu is > now "All Apps" and they are actually in alphabetical order. > > So far so good! > > Sailing this weekend. enough of this stuff! > Joel > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> it's really just 2 schools of thought. Those that feel "if it ain't >> broke, don't fix it" and ..."ooohh that's shiny....must...touch it!" >> >> when it comes to things that move I like the tried and true. PCs I'm >> always upgrading... it's a hobby and keeping up with software resource >> requirements is essential. My CAD modeling software updates every 12 >> months now and it does more, requires more resources and can utilize more >> resources. in this regard, time is money and quality keeps me busy. I >> could not compete on an XP machine with 4GB memory and AutoCAD 2007. No >> one would hire me... LOL >> >> Having said that, I just retired my 2005 Sony Viao dual core (because it >> died...) after 10 years of solid service as my entertainment center >> streaming video box... >> >> In the words of Michael Cain in Austin Powers, "....it's not the size >> mate, it's what you so wiv it!" >> >> It's just that way with marine electronics, do your 10 year old >> instruments work? do they suit your needs? do you REALLY need the new Ray >> touchscreen? >> >> Danny >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <[email protected]> >> To: "C&C List" <[email protected]> >> Cc: Josh Muckley <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 >> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 06:35:40 -0500 >> >> I'm still on XP for my daily driver and Vista on my desktop which gets >> used rarely. >> >> I do dual boot with Linux (Ubuntu) and keep it up to date. >> >> Josh Muckley >> On Aug 7, 2015 6:55 AM, "Bill Bina via CnC-List" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I have a digital recording studio in my house. You would be amazed at how >>> much hardware, as well as software, from the trivial to the major, is not >>> supported by Win10. What is the hurry? Let Win10 ripen for as long as >>> possible until you actually need it. Then again, thank you to the impatient >>> early adopters for jumping in early and finding the problems (the hard and >>> painful way) that will be fixed a year or two from now. Some present >>> hardware will never be supported. How many flatbed scanners went to the >>> recycler when Win7 didn't support them, although they worked perfectly in >>> XP? >>> >>> Bill Bina >>> >>>> On 8/7/2015 5:41 AM, Steve Sharkey via CnC-List wrote: >>>> >>>> I would expect that it would support a wide variety of hardware, but how >>>> about programs that were loaded on your computer? Quicken, video >>>> editing, navigation programs, etc? >>>> Steve >>>> *From:* Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:07 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 >>>> Generally, no (no need to do an upgrade). >>>> Be careful, though, with anything requiring special drivers (GPS >>>> receivers (they are all ?special?), any extraordinary WLAN adapters >>>> (e.g. some of the special ?extended range? ones), any older (and >>>> obsoleted) h/w (e.g. some older printers, scanners etc.), many security >>>> devices (e.g. finger print readers). >>>> Marek >>>> *From:* Steve Sharkey via CnC-List <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:47 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* Steve Sharkey <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 >>>> Joel, >>>> I'd be interested in how other programs run with it or whether you have >>>> to do upgrades on those as well. >>>> Steve >>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was >>>> flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The >>>> new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. >>>> I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very >>>> positive. >>>> -- >>>> Joel >>>> 301 541 8551 <tel:301%20541%208551> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> [email protected] >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> [email protected] >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >> bottom of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150807/36f4054b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 21:22:03 +0000 (UTC) > From: John McKay <[email protected]> > To: C&C List <[email protected]> > Subject: Stus-List Bimini > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I understand a C&C 33 MK II owner in Port Credit purchased a bimini from > Genco in the last few weeks. > Could I see a picture of the of it please if you see this? > John on EnterpriseSarnia > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150807/9e39bbf3/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:40:05 -0500 > From: Steve Staten <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > Message-ID: > > <84EF6C7F5B88DF41B6631E309DAC6A23024BCB6D7A87@CNEXCH-MAIL1.cnmain.cherokee.local> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have a Google story: > > My younger brother worked in shipyards all over the world. He fell at the one > in Korea that is on an island off the eastern coast and ruptured his spleen. > He came back to the US to recover and, instead, died in a motel in Texas. I > was named administrator of his estate. Because his first ex-wife looted his > motel room and storage unit, I had no idea of his friends, co-workers, > professional contacts or the many girlfriends and children that he claimed to > have scattered over the globe. > > I only knew of one bank account (the local one). I needed info on all his > financial resources so I could get them to my brother?s two legitimate > children by his second ex-wife. The only possible source that might provide > some answers was his GMail account. So, I contacted Google for access to it > and they demanded all sorts of documents as you would expect; death > certificates, court documents, my ID, etc. After ?jumping through all their > hoops?, they denied my request and said that I could not appeal it. Their > rationale was simply, ?We value our customer?s privacy.? This is the value of > human beings in a post-capitalist corporate economy. I hope all of Google?s > management die anonymously as my brother did to the people that knew him. > > Share or document your passwords so the folks who have to clean up after you > can do just that. Above all, get a will. > > Steve Staten > ?C? Est La Vie? > C&C 27 > Langley, OK > > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marek > Dziedzic via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Marek Dziedzic > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > > I hope you don?t think that Apple (or Google, for that matter) is not > collecting very similar information.... > > From: S Thomas via CnC-List<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:16 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: S Thomas<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > > Sounds like Microsoft and the NSA are dancing the same waltz. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: Bill Coleman<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > > Or this, > > > More than 14 million > devices<http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/30/windows-10-the-first-24-hours/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter> > are already running Microsoft?s Windows 10 after its global > launch<http://www.newsweek.com/windows-10-features-upgrade-review-microsoft-358027> > on Wednesday, but it?s unclear how many of their users read the company?s > Privacy Policy<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx> > and Service > Agreement<https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx> > before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages? worth > <http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/29/wind-nos/> of terms and > conditions (effective August > 1<http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2015/06/04/improving-the-microsoft-services-agreement-and-privacy-statement-for-consumers/>) > is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what > you do while using its new software. > > From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company > saves customers? basic information?name, contact details, passwords, > demographic data and credit card specifics ?but it also digs a bit deeper. > > Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and > conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of > private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including > features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. > Furthermore, ?your typed and handwritten words are collected,? the Privacy > Statement<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx> > says, which many online observers > <http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/31/windows-10-microsoft-faces-criticism-over-privacy-default-settings> > liken to > <http://thehackernews.com/2014/10/download-Windows-10-keylogger.html> a > keylogger<https://twitter.com/XzeroPoint/status/625325931410751488>. > Microsoft says they collect the information ?to provide you a personalized > user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character > recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.? > > All this information doesn?t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The > company says<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx> > it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its > services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted > advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third > parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique > advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, it ?does not use > what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, > photos or other personal files to target ads to you.? It makes no such > promise for its other stated data collection purposes. > > Bill Coleman > > > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150807/2e75d816/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:01:48 GMT > From: "Danny Haughey" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Steven, Thats an awful story. I'm so sorry for your loss and the trouble you > had just trying to do a good thing... These people refuse to take individual > circumstances into account... Danny > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Steve Staten via CnC-List <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Cc: Steve Staten <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:40:05 -0500 > > > I have a Google story: > > My younger brother worked in shipyards all over the world. He fell at the one > in Korea that is on an island off the eastern coast and ruptured his spleen. > He came back to the US to recover and, instead, died in a motel in Texas. I > was named administrator of his estate. Because his first ex-wife looted his > motel room and storage unit, I had no idea of his friends, co-workers, > professional contacts or the many girlfriends and children that he claimed to > have scattered over the globe. > > I only knew of one bank account (the local one). I needed info on all his > financial resources so I could get them to my brother’s two legitimate > children by his second ex-wife. The only possible source that might provide > some answers was his GMail account. So, I contacted Google for access to it > and they demanded all sorts of documents as you would expect; death > certificates, court documents, my ID, etc. After “jumping through all > their hoops”, they denied my request and said that I could not appeal > it. Their rationale was simply, “We value our customer’s > privacy.” This is the value of human beings in a post-capitalist > corporate economy. I hope all of Google’s management die anonymously as > my brother did to the people that knew him. > > Share or document your passwords so the folks who have to clean up after you > can do just that. Above all, get a will. > > Steve Staten > “C’ Est La Vie” > C&C 27 > Langley, OK > > From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marek > Dziedzic via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Marek Dziedzic > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > > I hope you don’t think that Apple (or Google, for that matter) is not > collecting very similar information.... > > From: S Thomas via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: S Thomas > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > > Sounds like Microsoft and the NSA are dancing the same waltz. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List > To: [email protected] > Cc: Bill Coleman > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22 > Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 > > Or this, > > More than 14 million devices are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 > after its global launch on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of > their users read the company’s Privacy Policy and Service Agreement > before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth of terms and > conditions (effective August 1) is a substantial power grab: The company is > collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software. >> From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The >> company saves customers’ basic information—name, contact >> details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics —but it >> also digs a bit deeper. > Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and > conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of > private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including > features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. > Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” > the Privacy Statement says, which many online observers liken to a keylogger. > Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a > personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with > better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you > type or write.” > All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. > The company says it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide > and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to > display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be > shared with third parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each > customer a unique advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, it > “does not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, > or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to > you.” It makes no such promise for its other stated data collection > purposes. > > Bill Coleman > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20150808/b13c9e31/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > [email protected] > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 115, Issue 24 > ***************************************** > _______________________________________________ Email address: [email protected] To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
