"how much does one spend on a '77 C&C 30-1?" Michael, the answer is, everything you've got and just a tiny bit more. you're welcome ;)
Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I wouldn't install a knot meter - Gps is fine > > No idea with the newer i50/60/70 series, but the older Raymarine > wind instruments used speed from the knot meter ( wheel in the thru hull ) > for calculating TWS and TWA. There didn't seem to be an option anywhere > to use GPS speed. > > Fred - any update on that? > > I may at some point upgrade the instruments on Windburn. I have mainly > ST50, with a new SPX/5 and one i70. The new stuff is nice but how much does > one spend on a '77 C&C 30-1? > > Michael Brown > Windburn > C&C 30-1 > > > > Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:18:47 -0500 > From: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics upgrade > Message-ID: <0f6f2727-374d-4a7a-b461-d3cb7ef6e...@postaudio.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Not too many listers chiming in on this topic. Anyone? Is everyone else > out sailing? > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > > > > On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > John ? like most Furuno gear, I imagine the black-box radar is pretty > reliable. My concern is with the other gear needed to use it. If you?re > going to spend that much on buying and installing a system, you want it to > work when you need it. And that?s generally when conditions are bad; which > is also when the consumer stuff (laptop, iPad, etc) is going to fail. Then > your investment is worthless. > > > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > > >> On Aug 9, 2015, at 9:07 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Any thoughts on the reliability of the Furuno unit itself? It's a bit > of an oddity but has been on the market for a while. Radar is not a > critical function to me (except when it is) but I view this more of an > offshore tool than anything else. Just my opinion which I'm sure most > would disagree with. > > > On August 9, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, John. No, you?re not crazy; just be careful with mixing and > matching equipment from different vendors. And as long as you?re putting > in modern electronics, there?s no reason I can think of to NOT integrate > all of them together; you get benefits like autopilot steering to wind > angle or to waypoints; and the ability to repeat GPS, wind, depth and other > data out to WiFi if you?re so equipped. And as far as not having a knot > meter, that means you lose the ability to correlate the GPS and boat data > to determine if you?re dealing with current set and drift, which can be > very helpful. > > > > > > Only you know what you?d really like to have; but I would at minimum do > a full instrument install, and my preference would be for the i70 Sail Pack > system if you?re looking at Raymarine. > > > > > > If you go with the Furuno black box radar, you?re completely blind if > your iPad dies. I?m a fan of having dedicated marine electronics for > functions you consider critical; if radar falls into that category, I?d > think twice about that setup. > > > > > > If the current B&G autopilot system works well, there?s no reason to > replace it; if it takes NMEA0183 data in, I?d definitely convert that from > NMEA2000 so it can talk with other gear as mentioned above. > > > > > > If you?d like AIS receive only, consider putting in a VHF radio like the > Standard Horizon GX2200, which has separate AIS receivers built in, and can > pass that info on to other equipment. If you?d like to be seen as well, > there are a bunch of choices in AIS Class B transponders; I?d recommend one > after you nail down the rest of the equipment, so it plays well with > everything else. > > > > > > And finally, chartplotters. I can see no reason to put in a Raymarine > GPS receiver just to give GPS to other gear. If you?re NOT going to do a > plotter (see notes about reliability of iPad and radar?), putting in an > AIS-enabled VHF can get you position data just as well. I?d suggest, > though, that you look at the new small MFDs that Simrad, B&G, Raymarine and > Garmin have out. Under $1000, and you can attach radar, AIS, instruments, > etc to get a fully marine-capable system that runs off your boat?s > batteries (no limited iPad battery life, which ALWAYS seems to fail when > you need it most?). > > > > > > I?ll be interested to see what others recommend. > > > > > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > > > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > > > > >> On Aug 9, 2015, at 4:30 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > > >> > > >> The basic electronics (b&g h1000 system) on Paws have been a challenge > since I first got her. Intermittent failures at the start of each season. > Now depth has failed and of all things it appears to be the transducer. > I'm debating modernizing. Please tell me if I'm crazy. A little > background: > > >> > > >> Close hauled wind indicator is important to me (which I currently don't > have) > > >> The autopilot (B&G) is a thing of beauty and will be kept > > >> There are two Furuno chart plotters running older Navionics charts. > Frankly I use the iPad almost exclusively now (nobeltec ap and visual tides > being my preference) > > >> AIS is important to me sailing in NY harbor - also off an iPad ap but > would consider upgrading > > >> I couldn't care less about any interface between chart plotter and auto > pilot and/or wind > > >> The boat does have radar which is never used for our current sailing. > Offshore would be a different story and we do do plan another offshore run > (Bermuda/Caribbean, etc) > > >> > > >> So here's what I'm thinking. > > >> > > >> Ray i50/60/70 instruments as a stand alone installation > > >> Existing auto pilot remains as a stand alone unit > > >> Replace existing Furuno radar dome with the PC version with built in > wi-if (works with Nobeltec iPad ap) > > >> Perhaps add a wireless router > > >> Add new Ray GPS head for a multifunction display; use iPad GPS for > chart plotter through ap > > >> I wouldn't install a knot meter - Gps is fine > > >> > > >> Any thoughts on the reliability of wifi offshore? I would think it's > fine but would love to hear opinions. > > >> > > >> All of this could be done for about 4k less whatever I can sell the old > equipment for on eBay. Feel free to tell me I'm nuts. Keep in mind we do > have limited offshore runs in the future. > > >> > > >> Opinions welcome > > >> > > >> John > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260
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