Fred and Andy, 

I have only attempted to hove to once with the LF38 and I did not pay much 
attention since I was more interested in lunch at the time.   

On my 29mk1, I played around quite a bit.  I found that I could get the 29 to 
properly heave to with many tweaks  but  mostly by rolling in the headsail 
some.  Only then would I see the noted slick.  Even then, eventually with some 
gust, wave, or roll I would find the 29 requiring additional tweaking or 
maintaining forward motion.   From what I read this is true with most fin 
keels, boats that turn on a dime, are not as stable to hove to and start 
forereaching.   I think I read that in Lin  and Larry Pardey’s book on storm 
tactics.   Below is a quote on forereaching from John Kretschmer from his 
recent book which I have enjoyed reading.  I do agree that heaving to with 
forward motion is also comfortable.   I hope to better master both techniques. 


"Forereaching is my preferred tactic for coping with severe weather. In some 
ways forereaching is similar to heaving-to except that the boat is moving 
forward, its natural motion, and not crabbing to leeward. By forereaching you 
trade the slick caused by heaving-to for the stability caused by having some 
forward motion."

Kretschmer, John (2013-09-27). Sailing a Serious Ocean: Sailboats, Storms, 
Stories and Lessons Learned from 30 Years at Sea (Kindle Locations 2956-2959). 
McGraw-Hill Education. Kindle Edition.


Here is a quote from Lin & Larry Pardey

"Figure 1 shows how generally to hold a boat hove-to in those storm-generated 
seas. Your boat may require different sail or helm adjustments from the four 
illustrated. The most important factor is to make sure your boat is stopped and 
drifting down-wind behind its slick. If you find you are forereaching, try 
tying the tiller more to leeward."





-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL




> On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:37 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:37:04 -0500
> From: Frederick G Street <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Heaving-to - sail ratios for higher winds
> Message-ID: <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Paul ? from Sail Online:
> 
>> When a sailboat is set in a heave to position, she slows down considerably 
>> and keeps moving forward at about 1 to 2 kts, but with a significant amount 
>> of drift. The drift creates some turbulence on the water, and that 
>> disturbance decreases significantly the sea aggressiveness.
> 
> This was always my understanding, and has been my experience on my 30mkI and 
> my LF38.
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:52 AM, PME via CnC-List <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> As I understand it, if your trying to heave to and your moving forward then 
>> your either in a current or actually forereaching.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Paul E.
>> 1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
>> S/V Johanna Rose
>> Carrabelle, FL
> 

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