Hi Josh!

In considering topsides to be waterline to toe rail.  I honestly would prefer 
gel coat.  I don't really understand the rush to paint.  Gelcoat seems to want 
to come back to life even after years of neglect.  I thought that, because she 
is painted already, I had no choice but to paint again.

Bottom has many layers of bottom paint that are peeling off.  I think she need 
a clean start all the way back with barrier coat.

I had this done on Lolita for around $2400 for the 2014 season, if I recall 
properly.  I guess that was a great price.  I think I paid 800 for sandblasting 
(yep they sandblasted) and then about 1600 for fixes, barrier coat and bottom 
paint.  I have to check my files to see how good my memory is.  I remember they 
gave me a 15% discount for scheduling and paying a 30% deposit.

The top sides on Lolita were painted by a PO and she was rolled and tipped and 
I thought she looked absolutely fine.  The hull was white.

Maybe an inexpressive roll and tip job would be an answer to get sailing and 
kick the can down the road a bit...?On Sep 6, 2015 12:11 PM, Josh Muckley via 
CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Danny,
>
> When you say topside paint are you talking about the hull (freeboard, area 
> between the water and toe rail)?  Or are you talking about the deck 
> (everything above the toe rail)?  Either way you're probably looking at the 
> better part of $10k.
>
> For hull/freeboard paint I suggest that  avoid the original Awlgrip (color 
> and clear coat in one shot) since blending a repair is such a challenge and 
> costly.  The newer Awlgrip 2000 is easier to blend and repair and for boats 
> of this age is glossy enough despite not being a color and clear coat 
> combo... Just glossy color.  Either way you will want to follow the 
> manufacturers care instructions closely.  You might want to make sure your 
> discussion includes re-gelcoating as an alternative to paint.  Many people 
> discount this as an option but it is one you might not have considered.  The 
> PO had mine partially re-gelcoated and I'm happy with it's appearance and 
> it's care is "normal".  Wash, polish, wax.
>
> When you say it needs a bottom job, what degree of bottom are you referring 
> to.  Just a haul, block, and wash with a sand and paint is gonna be about 
> $1k.  If you soda blast (or dry ice blast) then you're probably gonna need a 
> least a little fill and fare and then probably a barrier coat and bottom 
> paint which is also gonna push you close to $10k.  If you get into 
> remediation such as smile and blister repair then you're almost guaranteed 
> $10k+
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 6, 2015 11:21 AM, "Juno via CnC-List" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave, thanks!  I've read just about every article on this model and have 
>> been laying after one but I never thought all the stars would EVER align 
>> enough to actually own one! 
>>
>> the wife is not overly enthused about the dark wood interior but she 
>> couldn't deny the exceptional value of this particular boat.  I've got some 
>> work to do, mostly cosmetic, to make her as beautiful as she should be.  the 
>> biggest issue is topside paint.  It has an awlgrip job thats peeling 
>> terribly.  the surveyor was trying to convince me to do it myself and go 
>> with white fur more forgiveness.  I don't think I'd like to take on a job 
>> like that.  It seems to big for one guy to on his own.  I guess if I had it 
>> inside in my back yard all winter I might give it a shot.
>>
>> It's also in need of a bottom job.  this will be my 3rd boat in desperate 
>> need of a bottom job.  I'm going to try and have those 2 things done over 
>> this winter if I can get a reasonable price.
>>
>> does anyone have any idea what I might expect to pay for top sides and 
>> bottom job?
>>
>> geeze, I hope you guys don't mind me staying apart of the group now...  lol. 
>> I'd be lost without you all!
>>
>> Danny
>> closing soon!
>> Massachusetts
>>
>> DJH
>>
>> On Dave Godwin <[email protected]>, Sep 6, 2015 4:41 AM wrote:
>>>
>>> Congratulations. There’s one sitting in my slip at my house right now. It’s 
>>> owned by a Norwegian couple that have spent three (winter) seasons in the 
>>> Bahamas on it. They’re currently prepping to do do it again with a stop in 
>>> NYC before heading South. 
>>>
>>> They’re planning on stopping back at our place on the way down and I’ll 
>>> probably be crewing on the leg from the Chesapeake to Charleston, outside. 
>>> Big, sturdy boat and all set up for offshore work, including a nice wind 
>>> vane. Which I know absolutely nothing about.. 
>>>
>>> If I were home I’d walk down and take a picture and send it to you but it 
>>> will be gone by the time I get back. 
>>>
>>> Cheers, 
>>> Dave in BCN 
>>>
>>> > On Sep 4, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>>> > <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > OK all.  It's looking like we're going to be proud owners of a 1985 
>>> > tartan 40.  Survey went well we have come to terms on price, AND I had 
>>> > absolutely no problem with financing a 30 year old boat.  All there is to 
>>> > do now is finalize paperwork and the yard down there is taking care of a 
>>> > few things for me! 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>>
>>>
>>
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