I got it off finally last night...used a 2x4 piece of teak about 4 ft long and leveraged it off a 1x4 that I laid across the engine floor braces so the wood was just above the shaft/stuffing box area. Had to lean on it with my body weight and she popped right off. Now I'm working on pulling out the broken band and removing the good one from the old trany. I'll write up the process steps and some photos once done and post it up for all to archive for future "just in case" jobs. Hope to get it all put back together tomorrow on my day off... Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions.
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 10:17 PM, N7FN--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > If all else fails, connect everything back up, loosen bolts holding > transmission to engine, run engine, put in gear, pray. > Perhaps there will be enough play between the engine and transmission to > break the seal. > Many years ago I used a similar process to remove stuck cylinder heads. > I wasn’t trying to remove my transmission when I had a serious vibration. > Found all of the bolts holding the transmission to the engine were very > loose. > Good luck. > > Frank > S/V Cool Change > C&C 38LF, SN: 001 > Rose City YC > Portland, Oregon > > > *From:* Brian Davis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 05, 2016 06:43 > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Brian Davis <brianwdavis...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Paragon Transmission > > Just curious if anyone else has had trouble removing the transmission from > their boat? My LF 38 has a Paragon Vdrive connected to a Yanmar 30hp. The > Vdrive came off without issue and I got the bolts completely out of the > trans that go into the bell housing. I've been told that it should "come > right out", but I can even get it to budge. It was newly installed 3 years > ago by the PO and has been way inland in dry dock until a month ago. So I > wouldn't think its corroded that badly if at all...at least it doesn't look > that way. Maybe they used a sealant...which I was told it doesn't need > since it's a dry fit. I've tried a mallet and piece of wood to smack the > front and rear of it....nothing...smacked it pretty darn good too. I like > to think I'm a pretty strong and young guy...and I ate my biscuits n gravy > 2 mornings in a row now....still nothing. Any tips or tricks that anybody > has used with success? > > Regards, > Brian > > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Brian Davis <brianwdavis...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thank you, Doug. I appreciate the support and advice. I successfully >> removed the vdrive late last night without to much trouble...while >> listening to the relaxing sounds of the storm that passed through. Lol. I >> also got the bolts off the trans that connect to the yanmar, but she's not >> budging. It was late so I decided to pause for the day and resume after >> work today again. It is heavy indeed since I still have the old one the PO >> saved. I'm canceling my gym membership after carrying it to and from my >> storage unit to the boat. I'm thinking the gasket is probably sticking and >> she needs some encouragement of sorts, but I don't want to start hammering >> on it and have it come out and land on the shaft. So, I'm not sure of the >> best approach to next steps... Also, I'm not totally sure what you mean by >> "In the curved adapter is a universal joint that is splined to the >> transmission output shaft." The Vdrive pulled right off after >> disconnecting the cooling hoses... >> >> Thanks again for the input. She's a beautiful boat and I'm enjoying >> finishing up the restoration that the PO started. >> >> Regards, >> >> Brian >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:50 PM, svpegasu...@gmail.com < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Brian, and welcome. I have the Paragon trans and V-drive in Pegasus. >>> I was told by a marine mechanic (that repaired paragons) that you have to >>> hold it in reverse. There is no detent. As for removing it yourself. Pull >>> the V-drive first, remove it from the transmission. In the curved adapter >>> is a universal joint that is splined to the transmission output shaft. Next >>> remove the transmission. Carefull it is heavy. Good luck. You have a great >>> boat. >>> >>> >>> >>> Doug Mountjoy >>> >>> svPegasus >>> >>> LF38 1979 >>> >>> just west of Ballard, WA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original message------ >>> >>> *From: *Brian Davis via CnC-List >>> >>> *Date: *Tue, May 3, 2016 11:53 >>> >>> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com; >>> >>> *Cc: *Brian Davis; >>> >>> *Subject:*Re: Stus-List Paragon Transmission >>> >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uzo7ugqxmzlhv9w/paragon.pdf?dl=0 >>> >>> Here is a picture of the break.. >>> >>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Brian Davis via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Members, >>>> >>>> I'm new to the list, but have found a lot of beneficial reading >>>> belonging to the list. I purchased a 1980 Landfall 38 SL a couple of >>>> months ago. "Nina" was in dry dock at Indiantown Marina in Florida for >>>> nearly 3 years before I bought her. We launched her 4 weeks ago and >>>> motored her down to North Palm Beach pending the availability of our slip >>>> further south. The halyards are in desperate need of replacing, which is >>>> why we motored the whole way...plus the diesel needed a good running after >>>> so long anyhow. The fuel was 3 years old, but had stabilizer. Amazingly, >>>> she fired right up and purred like a tiger the whole way... She's a >>>> beautiful vessel for sure!! >>>> >>>> The PO did a lot of restorations to her one of which was a complete >>>> rebuild of the Yanmar 30hp and Vdrive. The Paragon transmission he >>>> replaced as well and he happed to find one in Michigan that was still brand >>>> new from 1980...believe it our not. I'm having an issue with the Reverse >>>> gear engaging and wondering if it's me or the trans. When I carefully >>>> shift her into Reverse she does seem to fully engage or stay in gear. I'm >>>> getting mixed feedback and hoping that somebody with the same set up can >>>> clarify. The shifter is on the wheel column while the throttle is on the >>>> side of the cockpit. Should I have to continuously hold the shifter down >>>> in reverse to keep it engaged?? Forward works great and there is a >>>> positive lock or click once I engage the shifter up into gear. However, >>>> once back off on the throttle, move it to neutral, then into reverse, and >>>> then giver her juice it doesn't seem to either slow the boat or move into >>>> reverse. >>>> >>>> To make matters worse, I was reading the Paragon instruction sheet that >>>> I received from the PO and I attempted to "adjust" it as directed. I made >>>> about a 1/2 to 3/4 turn (not torqueing by any means) and it cracked. >>>> After several inappropriate words to myself, I was able to contact a local >>>> trans shop and they said it must be removed and brought in and completely >>>> taken apart in order to replace the part. I happen to have the original >>>> trans so I hope I can pull that piece and reuse it...otherwise they said it >>>> could take months to get a replacement piece. >>>> >>>> After a conversation with the PO he sent me the number of the place in >>>> Michigan where he bought it. I spoke with them and sent the >>>> pics....waiting to hear back from them on advice. In the meantime I wanted >>>> to reach out to my fellow C&C owners for advice. I'm very handy and am >>>> considering pulling the trans and replacing it myself. Suggestions are >>>> welcome! But, I'm still curious as to why the reverse wasn't engaging.... >>>> thoughts? >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Brian Davis >>>> ..dead in the water, but at least at a marina in sunny FL.. >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >>>> Virus-free. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>>> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All >>>> Contributions are greatly appreciated! >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. 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