Any wonder there is confusion on this issue.....what's the difference
between "sailing vessels less than 20m in length" and any powerboat?
Rob
On 2016-09-13 11:16 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
Read also what it says about power vessels. When you have the engine
on, your boat is a motor vessel.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:27 AM, robert via CnC-List
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Appears my 'electrical question' veered off into another
discussion on 'navigation lights'........my fault when I said I
was told by a fellow club member that my 'masthead/steaming light'
was not a legal requirement for my boat. I took the following
quote from the West Marine site supplied my Marek:
"Sailing vessels less than 20m in length need to show sidelights
and a stern light. These may be combined into a bicolor light and
stern light, or a single tricolor light at the top of the mast."
My boat is "less than 20m in length".
Whether the fixture is a legal requirement or not, I am going to
replace it with one similar because I want the 'foredeck light',
but if it is indeed a legal requirement, I want to comply as well.
So back to the beginning, the fixture I saw at the Binnacle looks
very much the same as the existing one......I like this as I would
not have to drill new holes to attach but if I have to, so be it.
The new fixture only has one wire to attach whereas mine appears
to have three (not exactly sure as I have not yet removed it from
the mast although there are three existing the base of the mast)
and I have no idea how to connect it.
There must be a logical way to connect it?
Rob
On 2016-09-12 2:02 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:
Rob,
As Frederick said, whoever told you that was mistaken.
This illustrates what you have to show:
http://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Navigation-Light-Rules
<http://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Navigation-Light-Rules>
(scroll down to a picture at the bottom of the page). Keep in
mind that HOW you display the light is up to you (one light,
combination of several lights), as long as you display the RIGHT
COLOURS and in the RIGHT SEGMENTS.
Marek
*From:* robert via CnC-List
*Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2016 11:29
*To:* [email protected]
*Cc:* robert
*Subject:* Stus-List Electrical Question
Marek:
The light on the front of the mast about 1/2 way up just above
the spreaders is the one I am talking about......I was told it is
no longer a legal requirement but the 'anchor light' at the top
of the mast is a legal requirement......it can be seen 360
degrees but the light 1/2 way up the front of the mast can not be
seen 360 degrees.
I didn't think a single wire made sense also and did not buy the
fixture. I will buy the more expensive Aqua Signal.
Thanks all for your input.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2016-09-12 10:24 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:
Rob,
I am not sure to which part you refer as “no longer legally
required”. You don’t need the deck light, for sure, but you do
need a steaming light, unless you can show a 360 degrees white
light in some other way (e.g. turn off the stern light and turn
on the anchor light at the top of the mast).
A single wire out of the combination light does not make sense.
You need at least two, unless they try using the mast as the
ground (then I would not buy it). Most of the combo lights come
with separate leads for each function, i.e. negative/ground
(usually common), positive - steaming, positive - deck light.
Some combo lights had a switch in the unit that allow to run the
power with a single positive wire (plus the negative). If this
is one like that, the switch turns e.g. steaming light when you
turn it on, but if you switch it off and on again, it would turn
the deck light, and again - both. You would have to decide if
that meets your needs.
If it really has a single wire, I am afraid, you will have to
bite the bullet and spend twice (3x?) as much on the Aqua Signal.
Marine Outfitters (Kingston) has very similar light (for very
similar price) with 3 wires:
http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/index.cfm?category=10002|10000|11312&product=38614998&code=900000021547
<http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/index.cfm?category=10002%7C10000%7C11312&product=38614998&code=900000021547>.
Marek
*From:* robert via CnC-List
*Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2016 08:50
*To:* [email protected]
*Cc:* robert
*Subject:* Stus-List Electrical Question
When up the mast the other day, I noticed that my 'Steaming, Bow,
Foredeck Light' was in pretty bad shape.....probably the
original 32
years old. Will probably replace it when the mast is hauled
later this
Fall although I understand this light is no longer legally
required.......but I do like the halogen foredeck light.
I found this one linked below at the Binnacle.......almost
similar to
the existing one:
Lights-Steaming-Spreader-&-Deck-Lights/c23_156/p1349/AAA-MASTHEAD-/-DECK-LIGHT/product_info.html
It appears, without removing mine, that there are three (3)
white wires
exiting the foot of the mast connecting to 'green, red and black'
......I assume the green is negative, red is positive and black
in ground.
Here's the question......the new light fixture at the Binnacle
only has
one white wire as a connection.......there is (are) no other
places on
the back of the fixture to connect other wires. So if my old
fixture
has 3 connections (assuming it does but I have not removed it to be
sure) and this new fixture only has one 'white wire', how do you
connect it?
As you can tell, I am no electrician.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
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