If one were to upgrade to a 33# Vulcan (30 foot boat), what would be a suitable windlass to retrieve it while fitting in the std C&C anchor locker?
Allen Miles S/v Septima 30-2 Hampton, VA On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Over the past 7 years working at and now managing a municipal marina along > the ICW, I've gotten to know a lot of liveaboard cruising boaters. Most > liveaboard spend most of their time at anchor, so setting and holding has a > high priority. From what I have seen and heard from them, the order of > preference and frequency of use of their anchors appears to be: > > Rocna > Mantus (a less expensive Rocna) (One or the other of these two are > probably on 40-50% of the boats. And I'm starting to see the versions of > the Rocna (called a Vulcan) and Mantus anchors that do not have the "roll > bar" across the top, because these versions work well on most bow rollers.) > Spade and Bruce (or a Bruce knockoff like the Simpson Lawrence Claw) - > these two are about even in frequency and are on maybe 25-30% of the boats > Almost all of the other anchors I notice on cruising boats are some sort > of plow type anchor > The cruisers who have a Danforth type anchor (including Fortress and > Guardian) aboard seem to view it as a lunch hook (or kedge anchor for > getting unstuck if aground) and not a primary anchor. (I will say that I > got the idea for carrying the Fortress FX23 I have aboard Imzadi for a > lunch hook, and the FX37 I carry as a 3rd storm anchor, from some cruising > friends of mine. The Fortress and Guardian anchors break down and store > easily when not in use, and they are light to schlep around the boat when > you do use them.) > > Danforth type anchors seem to be ubiquitous on smaller power boats (if > they have an anchor at all), and on sailboats and larger power boats that > spend their lives at marina docks. > > Most of the cruisers seem to favor big anchors. The rule taught me many > years ago by an old USCG Mater Chief was 1 pound of anchor for every foot > of boat and at least 1 foot of chain for every foot of boat. Most of the > cruisers seem to follow that sort of norm, and I see a lot of even heavier > anchors. A 40' trawler in the marina right now has a 25kg Rocna as a > primary anchor. > > On another observation based on my experience: The anchorage area off the > marina in Washington is soft mud running from about 6 to 16 feet deep, with > reversing current in response to strong and/or changing winds. In 7 years > the only boat than has never dragged is a 34 Hunter that uses a 15kg Rocna > and 100 feet of chain (I asked). Virtually every boat that uses a Danforth > has been in the weeds at least once (one of them went into the Highway > Bridge 3 times before the owner wised up). > > Different anchors have different benefits. A Danforth is supposed to be > good in sand and suck if there is shell, gravel or weed, for example. So I > don't see that there is a WORST anchor. But my guess is that a Danforth is > in the running for the title of LEAST RELIABLE anchor because it gets > flipped out if your boat gets blown over the top of it by wind or current, > and it doesn't want to reset. But it makes an good lunch hook if you are on > the boat and awake. > > > Rick Brass > Washington, NC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Christian Tirtirau via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:53 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Christian Tirtirau <christian_tirti...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Stus-List Choosing an anchor for a C&C 35 mkll > > I second Dave’s view on the 3rd generation anchors. CQR is in fact the > worst anchor ever made, that’s why they had to be heavily oversized to > work. Delta is a 2nd generation anchor, good but not great. > For such a critical piece of equipment the choice should be one of the 3rd > gen anchors. Spade is the best anchor in the world, followed by Rocna and > Mantus. > The Spade is also the most expensive anchor in the world, so for most > sailors it’s a toss between the next two in line. > I have a Rocna 15 kg with 300 feet of 5/16 Acco chain and, consequently I > spend most of my time tending other people’s anchors and boats rather than > mine. All that tackle is handled by me with the help of an electric Maxwell > windlass. > > Chris > C&C 37 Northern Light > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >
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