The first C&C 30 was a great race boat--in heavy air especially-- when it came 
out. The new 30s are pretty spectacular boats-- and pretty robust, too--this is 
a boat you can take on overnight races if you're so inclined. The Tim Jacket 
C&Cs followed the tradition of the marque as well built and successful 
racer/cruisers...good-looking, too. My Rob Ball designed C&C 40 Peregrine is 
nothing like the C&C-designed Crusader 40s of a decade earlier. 
My point is that they are all C&Cs. We're a pretty inclusive bunch.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
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> On Oct 31, 2016, at 14:03, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Agree.
> The “New C&C” has no relation to the old at all other than the name. There 
> was a thread connecting the newest and the oldest C&Cs all through the 
> various bankruptcies and re-orgs, but this is a new wavy logo and boats that 
> had no relationship at all to any previous C&Cs. I guess the other choice was 
> no C&C, so this is still better and I got a ton of clothes with the old 
> straight line logo for cheap J
> Joe
> Coquina
> A real real old ancient senior citizen C&C 35 MK I
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Gilchrest via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 13:37
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List SA/D Ratio
>  
> Ron,
> Essentially, Ford still has a member of the Ford family at the helm of a 
> company that has “evolved” as automotive and transportation designs have 
> become modernized.  If Hyundai was to “buy” the brand name “Pontiac” and 
> renamed the Hyundai Elantra a “GTO” or “Firebird”, would it be a Pontiac or a 
> Hyundai?   I submit that it would still be a Hyundai. 
> The C&C Brand today exists only as a marketing tool for the founders of the 
> now defunct Summit Yachts and whilst the current C&C 30 has found a niche in 
> the “mini-GP” owner-driver market, it has far more DNA with previous Mark 
> Mills IRC  Summit Yachts designs than any boats ever built in Niagara on the 
> Lake.
> It will be interesting to see if the current C&C 30 holds its value and has 
> the same desirability of the C&C Yachts that we associate with the brand.
> Chuck Gilchrest
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 Landfall 35
> Padanaram, MA
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ronald B. 
> Frerker via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Ronald B. Frerker <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List SA/D Ratio
>  
> Designers change, methods change even at the same company (Ford no longer 
> makes model T's); as long as it's the same company banner with the same level 
> of excellence and commitment to quality, it's a C&C.  Evolution can be a good 
> thing.
> I would love to have the newest 30 to race with!
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
>  
>  
> 
> From: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Cc: Jerome Tauber <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List SA/D Ratio
>  
> Not the original C&C.  Those are epoxy hull with carbon mast built by 
> Fairport Yachts.    Jerry 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 31, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> What about the C&C 115?  24.19
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 7:20 PM
> To: cnc-list
> Cc: Ken Heaton
> Subject: Re: Stus-List SA/D Ratio
>  
> From SailboatData:
>  
> C&C 34/37R - Sail Area/Disp.1 : 21.16
> C&C 34/37 XL - Sail Area/Disp.1 : 20.34
> C&C 27 Mk.V - Sail Area/Disp.1: 20.37
>  
> So we're not very far behind you.  Keep looking over your shoulder...
>  
> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>  
> http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/
>  
>  
>  
> On 28 October 2016 at 18:00, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Was just looking at sail area to displacement ratio for C&C's on 
> sailboatdata.com and was surprised to see that my little 27 mark v and the 
> 34/37R have the highest SA/D of any C&C's built by the original company other 
> than the SR models.  Jerry J&J C&C 27 MKV. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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