Hi Ryan (and Andrew R. White, if you're still on the list), I'll take you up on your offer to answer questions about getting a pump in that deep forward bilge sump.
If I'm reading correctly, you didn't rebuild your mast step? That is one of the offseason projects I'll be tackling this winter, basically following the prescriptions of http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/maststep/maststep.htm, including re-doing all the bilge pump plumbing. I've put pictures of my current mast step support situation at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTSzRLbFo0NDl6U1E . When I put all my weight on the aft mast step support I can see it deflect downward a quarter inch or so. The PO created a custom big wooden wedge to cram down into that forward sump, which I don't like for two reasons: 1) it transfers the compressive load onto the keel and I worry about that force separating the keel joint; and 2) it prevents putting a pump in there and keeping that space dry. Once I rebuild the supports and get that wedge out of there, I'm pretty sure my boat's current Rule pump (or a replacement for it) will fit in there. So I guess my first questions are: 1. How many mast step supports are these early 30-1s supposed to have? (I have hull #7, built September 1972) As you can see, mine only has two. But the above-linked DIY story by Andrew R. White shows three. 2. Would there be any harm in cutting out the thin fiberglass ends of that "well" formed by the mast step supports? You can see them in the pictures of my boat on the aft side of the forward mast step support and on the forward side of the aft mast step support. But there are none in the picture in the above-linked DIY story. 3. So, what exactly did you do to get a pump into that forward bilge sump? Assuming I make new mast step supports out of fiberglass board like Andrew R. White did, I'll leave a gap or drill a big hole at the bottom of them, so water and bilge pump hoses can run into that forward sump where a pump will be. Thanks in Advance, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" <[email protected]> To: "cnc-list" <[email protected]> Cc: "Ryan Doyle" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:12:43 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C&C 30mki for sale Thanks Randy. Sounds like you have a really nice old 30. If you ever have questions about the bilge pump situation and what I did (especially about getting a pump in that forward bilge), wiring, keel joint seal, etc. etc. I'd be more than happy to tell you what I did and how I did it. Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:47:16 +0000 (UTC) From: RANDY < [email protected] > To: cnc-list < [email protected] > Cc: Ryan Doyle < [email protected] > Subject: Re: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C&C 30mki for sale Message-ID: < [email protected] > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Ryan, That's a very impressive list of projects, and a good-looking boat. As a data point, when I bought my 1972 30-1 hull #7 in January, I looked at comparables I could find online at the time - five of them from 1972 to 1976 - and the average price was $13,650 (range $9,500-$17,650). I paid nearly twice what you're asking, for a 30-1 with spinnaker and good 38' triple-axle trailer, and recent projects done by the PO included: new batteries, solar panel, and charge controller; all through-hulls rebedded; new bottom paint; all winches rebuilt and backing plates installed; new head and holding tank; new head countertop; all cushions recovered; all windows re-sealed; and a new traveler. This year I installed a spare tire / carrier wheel on the trailer, refinished the boot stripe, buffed and waxed the topsides, painted the bottom, added curtains and throw rugs inside, replaced some running rigging, replaced the headfoil, installed a vang, added a masthead SailTimer wind instrument, and re-did the bunks and guides on the trailer. But in the future I will be doing a lot of the projects you've already done: rebedding the chainplates; rebuilding the mast step support and overhauling the bilge pump system; re-doing fuel tank straps and vent and wiring; refinishing the topsides; servicing the A4; rewiring; replacing compasses; resealing the keel joint; etc. For the difference between what I paid for my boat and what you're asking for yours, somebody could probably restore the interior of yours to the original layout, and they'd have a hell of a nice 30-1 with all the improvements you've made, and the instrumentation you've added, etc. I really like the tiller steering and boom-end sheeting to traveler on transom (which it looks like you have) - my boat is set up the same way, and it makes for a very roomy cockpit. It's also nice to have a pushpit gate (I don't), and your dodger and bimini are great additions - my boat doesn't have those. I hope somebody recognizes what a value your boat is, and I have to agree with you the 30-1 is tough as nails and famously sturdy. Mine is easily the fastest boat in my club when the wind is blowing 17 knots or more, even with an undersized main and a fixed prop. She stays on her feet under full sail when other boats have to depower. Best Regards, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Doyle via CnC-List" < [email protected] > To: "cnc-list" < [email protected] > Cc: "Ryan Doyle" < [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 8:41:25 AM Subject: Stus-List I've listed my 1976 C&C 30mki for sale Hey All, The wife and I are moving on up to a 38-40 footer. Most likely a C&C landfall 38, a Cal 39, or an Ericson 38 if we can find one that fits our budget. Our max budget is about 30k - so, I am looking for a boat that needs tlc, but has good bones that I can fix and restore like I did my C&C 30. Rob, I'm sorry to post about another 30 for sale when I saw you just posted yours, but I believe your boat is a mkii, and it's a much later model, so I don't think we're after the same buyers... That said, we may be looking to buy the same boats... ;) My 1976 C&C 30 has been lovingly restored, with the below list of upgrades - many of which I posted about on here. I have her listed on Craigslist for $8450 - I know that's cheap. This is why - Her interior was renovated (very nicely) by a previous owner and she has newer Lexan portlights (just re-bedded and re-sealed this spring), so she won't fetch as much as a totally original looking 30, but she needs absolutely nothing to go right now.. We love her huge galley. We sail her regularly on weekends. She's a great boat - stiff as all heck and she handles the ocean passage from Brooklyn to NJ great. She's at a marina (paid thru Dec) in Island Heights, NJ. If she doesn't sell by Sept 24th I'll be sailing her back to Brooklyn where she will be at the Sheepshead Bay Yacht club. I'll be at the boat this Saturday preparing her for Hermine if anyone would like to see her. The listing: https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5705263847.html Recent upgrades: -Total re-wire with new 14 gauge marine Ancor wire throughout, insulated 14 gauge duplex wire on deck and in bilge (forward bilge pump is 16 gauge duplex) -New bottom paint spring 2016 -Hull paint spring 2016 -Deck and grip paint summer 2016 -Water pump rebuilt spring 2016 -Ignition switch fuel solenoid valve installed spring 2016 -Keel joint sealed with G-Flex epoxy spring 2016 -New fuel tank straps, ground, and fill ground -New Blue Sea systems 12 circuit main breaker panel - winter 2015-2016 -Chainplates re-bedded and re-sealed April 2016 -All Portlights rebedded and resealed - fall 2015 -New Raymarine i40 depth finder and through hull Transducer - April 2016 -New Lowrance Elite 4 GPS chartplotter - April 2016 -New low-draw LED navigation lighting - April 2016 -New low-draw LED anchor/steaming light at masthead - April 2016 -New low-draw LED interior lighting - Winter 2015/2016 -New engine blower fan and hose - March 2016 -New Plastimo mini contest compass - March 2016 -New fuel tank vent hose - Nov 2015 -New interior ventilation fans - April 2016 -New main bilge pump hose/new thru hull - April 2016 -New forward switched Rule 500gph electric bilge pump for forward bilge - April 2016 -New 7w Ganz solar panel - October 2015 -New cabin sole carpeting - spring 2016 Ryan Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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