Thanks for the comments, but....

We have had the pump off a couple of times.  The belt was tightened when we put 
it back on.  There has always been water with pressure coming out of the pump, 
the higher the revs the more water.  Whether enough pressure is hard to tell. 

In terms of the old impeller, not sure if bushing is the right word, but the 
pin inside the impeller could spin freely and the impeller would not turn.  The 
rubber had become disconnected from the inner spindle.  The question is whether 
this was a cause or a consequence.  We think a consequence.

Today we will once more systematically go through from start to finish, 
carefully recording exactly the results of each test.

We are thinking that because all simple test (blowing, running water from a 
hose) through all parts of the engine show no blockage, that perhaps there 
isn't one.  That, and that removing the thermostat doesn't change the 
behaviour.  That only leaves the system up to and including the pump - it 
doesn't have enough pressure.  But perhaps we are wrong there.  When the engine 
fills with water perhaps something changes.  But if it won't go through the 
bypass when the thermostat is removed, what?

Also the piece where the water goes into the cylinder jacket, where water goes 
into the engine and circulates through to come out the thermostat.  Has anyone 
ever had that off, and is it anything more than a T and a pipe?  Is there 
something else in there which pressure can impact?  This is after the pump and 
before water goes into the engine or to the bypass.

All ideas or things to test welcome.  We will closely watch the belt to the 
pump.

Could be time to get the mechanic, but last time it cost me $1500 for them to 
finally figure out what the $20 problem was.

Don

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On Jun 3, 2017, at 10:07 PM, DON JONSSON <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello

Today on the first trip out for the weekend on the boat I got about 5 minutes 
out and the engine over heated.  Spent the next 3 hours trying to figure it out 
before towing the boat back in with the dinghy.  Another 2 hours at the dock 
and still no luck.  Perhaps someone can help.

First it is a Yanmar 3GMD with is a raw water cooled engine.  Here is what was 
tried.

1. When the alarm went checked that indeed no water pumping was the issue and 
turned the engine off and dropped an anchor.

2. Checked from the through hull to strainer and it was fine, no blockage.

3. Checked downstream of the pump and found no water.  Thought, "that was 
easy".  Not.  Took the pump off and the bushing on the impeller had given up 
and the impeller wasn't spinning.  It is only a year old, but whatever, put a 
new one in.  Now water was coming out of the pump but still not going through 
the engine.  Wondered whether back pressure from a plug downstream had caused 
the impeller to fail.

4.  Systematically went through every location that you can check all the way 
to the riser on the exhaust and everything was clear.   The riser is brand new 
and there are no blockages there.  You could blow freely through hoses and the 
engine.  Water was coming but not enough water.

5. Tested the thermostat in hot water, it opened no problem.

6. Started at the beginning again and this time ran the engine a bit at each 
spot. What we found was that the water would be fine until we rev'd up the 
engine and which point the water would slow down and stop.  When we went down 
to an idle it would start again.  This could be repeated over and over again.   
 Except immediately downstream of the water pump where there was always water 
with pressure.

7. Took out the thermostat and tried this test down stream of it.  Same 
problem.  We assumed in the case the water, or at least not all of it, wouldn't 
even be going through the engine.

8. Flushed water forwards and backwards through the engine.  No problem and no 
debris.

9.  Figure there must be air coming at the strainer and put in a new gasket and 
checked for cracks.  Same problem.

Opinions are:

1. There is still a problem with air somewhere before or in the pump.  But 
where?  And why no water.

2. At the T where water goes into the cylinder jacket there is something wrong 
going on, but it is not easy to remove.

3. If it is a blockage in the engine then when there is no thermostat in the 
engine these symptoms should not occur downstream of the thermostat, but they 
do.

4. If it is in the engine, when the thermostat is in and the engine is cold you 
should get water, but you don't.


Tomorrow we will start again, but if anyone has any ideas it would be 
appreciated.

Don Jonsson
Swan Song, C&C 34
Victoria

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