Jim, that is some of the best set of recommendations I've heard in a long time. 
 I did this ad hoc, and not on a schedule.  However,  taking an awl and poking 
around the chainplait attachments to the bulkheads every 6 months whole looking 
for wood discoloration will tell you if you have a rot issue or punky wood 
needing immediate attention.  Good proactive maintenance worthy of an annual or 
6 month checklist.
Well recommended!
Bruce Whitmore C&C 37/40+



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-------- Original message --------From: jcn--- via CnC-List 
<[email protected]> Date: 7/10/17  10:01 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
[email protected] Cc: [email protected], Dave S <[email protected]> Subject: 
Re: Stus-List Subject: Re:  Broke my boat 
Adding my 2 cents the same thing happened to me in my previous boat a 1977 
O'Day.  A leak through the port side side stay cover plate caused the plywood 
bulkhead to rot (had been leaking  unbeknown to me for quite a while) and in 15 
knot winds after a tack it literally exploded out of the deck and de-masted the 
boat.  Mast was stepped to the deck so it ripped open the deck and bent the 
mast step fittings but by luck not the mast itself.  Got the mast strapped back 
on the boat and motored back shaken, sad but determined.   Took me 3 months of 
weekends but I replaced the entire bulkhead with new marine grade plywood 
treated and stained, stainless chain plates with backer stainless plates and 
rebuilt and glass epoxied the deck etc.  I would say it's now better and 
stronger than new.  Now here is what I find interesting, of the 15 other 
sailboats where I moor my boat two other owners said the same thing had 
happened to them over a span of about the last 15 years!  
I now have a '71 C&C 35 mk1 and you can be sure I inspect my chain plates and 
bulkheads real close every year.  I have a sharp awl that I use to poke with to 
ensure to soft spots or rot.  Have the area clean and painted and am always 
checking to ensure no leaks in or around any of the chain plates. 
Good luck.  Jim Neirinck
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On Jul 10, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Dave S via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote:



I agree with Doug, the boat itself is quite repairable, an advantage of the 
older boats.  I would have a very good look at the other side as well.  There's 
a lot you could do, - fairly simply - to improve the strength in this area. 
Where was the Redwing made?     Reminds me of a Corvette I looked at. Good luck 
with the insurance company.Key will -I think - be finding a spar for a 
reasonable price.   




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From: Doug Allardyce <[email protected]>
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:29:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List Broke my boat
 Neil, Sorry  to hear about your disaster. Clearly one of every sailors worst 
nightmares. I  can only imagine what you and your crew went through. On the 
bright side, no one  was injured.After looking  at your pictures I was 
surprised that the damage to the boat wasn't more  extensive. The shroud came 
out fairly clean so the damage to the deck wall ugly  is very repairable. The 
bulkhead will take a little more work, but also very  repairable. I would 
replace about 18" of the bulkhead from outboard or until you  get into good 
wood. Glass it in and add a large aluminum plate on the back side,  and it will 
be stronger than new. It may not look like a new boat on the inside,  but it 
will be stronger. If the insurance will cover the majority of the cost,  its 
always nice to have a bran new Offshore rig with new shrouds you can  trust. 
Good luck my  friend.  The Redwing 35 is a classic. We still have many active 
35's in the  Detroit racing circuit. Doug  AllardyceC&C 35  
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We were dis masted   yesterday just off shore from Muskegon, Michigan 
yesterday.  The   starboard chain plate bulkhead failed and the chain plate 
pulled out through   the deck.  The mast snapped at the spreaders and fell off 
to the leeward   side.

We were in the starting stages of the Jolly Roger Shoreline   race.  The 
conditions changed from about 11-12 kts (true) to 14-15 kts   when the chain 
plate failed.  Waves were about 3 feet.  We had been   on a beam reach doing 
7.0-7.2 kts and hardened up to closehauled to see if we   were going to be able 
to point to the turning mark when it failed.  We   had about twenty seconds 
between hearing the pop and having the chain plate   fly out of the deck with 
the mast failed.  Luckily, all were in the   cockpit at failure.  I was just 
starting out to crash drop sails from the   first pop and seeing the slack 
leeward shroud.  The helmsman had just   started turning into the wind.

After about an hour, we were able to get   the main off and stowed and get the 
jib on deck with the mast lashed to the   bow pulpit.  Took the boat back in to 
Muskegon to Torresen Marine and   left it in their haulout well until Monday 
when they can start assessing   it.

It will come down to economics to see if the hull value will   support a new 
mast and structural repairs necessary.

The starboard   chain plate had leaked in the past and I had glassed in the 
bulkhead and added   a backing plate when I bought her (22 years ago) but the 
wood in the area does   not look good.

I will keep the list updated with how things pan   out.

Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark   I)
"Corsair"
White Lake, Michigan
(Now residing in Muskegon for the   time being)
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