Well okay, maybe I should requalified this. I have to agree with Ron on the
thistle thing. I had a thistle once in a previous life, my brother and I and
two girls were out on it, got three miles out in the lake, got a puff - my
brother was driving, had the main cleated - long story short we went over,
spent 45 minutes thinking that the boat was going to sink. It never did, but it
was enough to freak him and this other girl out. Oddly enough, the boat had
come with a little bit of polyurethane foam strapped underneath the brace by
the Mast. But it was all rotting, and I had taken it out, and not replaced it
yet . Obviously big mistake.After that, I decided I wanted a boat that would
not flip over. So I got a Star. Then after the second year, got an accidental
jibe, couldn't get the running back quick enough, watched the masked curl
forward... After that, I decided I didn't want a boat with running backs. Got a
Soling. Wonderful boat. Easy, fun, fast.
Ken Read came to our club this spring and gave a wonderful talk. He kind of
lambasted our sailing school for having Optis and flying juniors, 470's. . .
He said his daughter was in a sailing school, an Opti flipped over and sink
underneath her. Freaked her out so bad that she still doesn't sail to this day.
Obviously, he's very sad about that. I think he liked the Bics for the little
kids, and thought that we should actually be getting into foiling just so that
it would excite the older kids.
My point was just that to actually learn to sail is best on a small boat.
Preferably one that you can flip back over and drain out. Then you can learn
how to sail a bigger boat and not get freaked out by things happening, as the
forces increase exponentially. Doesn't take much of a bad experience to turn
somebody completely off of sailing.
Regards,
BillC&C 39 Erie
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From: "Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 8/29/17 18:05 (GMT-07:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C&C 25
I'm with Chuck on this. A couple on the lake bought a Thistle (17ft open
craft; very responsive and great in light air) for their first boat and on the
second time out, they dumped it. Woman would never get back in that or any
other boat.We learned in a Venture 21, a very cheap boat, but decent in light
air and easy on/off the trailer. Pretty forgiving.Then got a San Juan 24 and
realized what a difference a good boat makes in boat feedback, docking etc.Note
the sailing schools use J24s, Colgate 26s and Solings (same size range &
style).Get the 25, it's a great size to get things figured out with.Then get
the 30 since it's fantastic!RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL
From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C&C 25
For what it is worth, As a first boat I owned a 13' FJ dinghy that taught me
nothing about sailing a 4000lb keelboat. Both that boat and my Laser made me
realize that I like to sail and like to swim, just not at the same time.Our
25mk1 allowed us overnight accommodations for a young family and served as a
stable and fun performing boat which we owned for 14 years before trading up to
our current Landfall 35.Chuck Gilchrest Padanaram, MA
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On Aug 29, 2017, at 4:46 PM, coltrek via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
If you REALLY want to learn how to sail , buy a 13 - 14 footer and sail for a
year or two. You will learn so much quicker on a small boat. Sorry if I'm
raining on your parade!
Regards,
BillColemanC&C 39
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