I would think that the fact that the pedestal guard moves quite a lot would be 
a good reason for using butyl (as Mike said). But I am not an expert. And the 
fact that it worked for three years on my boat is not any kind of proof.

The only other experience with sealing a anything is with redoing the 
chainplates interface with the deck on my old C&C 24. At that time I used 3M 
4200. If I remember correctly, it worked quite well for a while, but 
eventually, it is bound to become less flexible and starts to crack/lose the 
seal with the fibreglass (like all silicone). Eventually, I was told that butyl 
would have been better.

Maybe we should ask the “Butyl Guru” – Maine Sail?

Marek



From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
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Marek

My thinking is that there is likely some movement of the binnacle guard, and 
that LifeSeal will form a stronger bond than butyl.  Can't say I have any 
evidence to back it up -  sort of like 'my anchor is better than your anchor'.

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The pedestal guard tends to move a lot where it contacts floor since many use 
it as a handhold and put torque on it.  I would think Butyl due to this 
constant flexing would be an excellent idea

Mike
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Stopping leaks through pedestal guard feet?

Bruce,

I had a similar problem with my pedestal guard and used butyl rubber.  The 
pedestal guard with feet were moved up after loosening the set screws that hold 
it to the pedestal structure.  This allowed butyl rubber to be placed around 
the threaded part of the feet.  The pedestal guard was then pushed back down so 
the butyl rubber filled the penetrations in the deck.  The pedestal guard feet 
are held against the deck.  It worked.

The cables run inside the pedestal guard and under the “bubble” located 
top/aft/centerline in the aft cabin headliner.  Without removing the cables, I 
could not remove the pedestal guard.  It looked like the bottom of the feet 
were threaded and designed to take a lock nut.  If the above fix above did not 
work, I considered drilling holes in the “bubble” and adding lock nuts to hold 
the feet down..

Ron

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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 4:50 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Stopping leaks through pedestal guard feet?

Hello all,

We have a 1994 C&C 37/40+, and we are replacing the stern and v berth mattress 
foam and fabric.  I have noticed a very small leak which is coming from the 
starboard pedestal guard foot, where the bolts and wires penetrate the cockpit 
floor.  We have stopped the vast majority of the leak by applying a small layer 
of aluminum duct tape at the point where the stainless tubing penetrates the 
stainless foot. There is a hard plastic spacer that fills the gap between the 
tube & the foot, but it doesn't seem to be made of the proper material to be 
properly water resistant.

So, I expect this leaves us with water coming in under the foot itself, where 
it is bolted through the floor of the cockpit itself (which is finished with 
teak).

What would you suggest as to the best way to seal this?  The leak we get is 
coming down over the stern berth, and I sure don't want leaks staining our new 
fabric!

I am thinking about loosening the feet & lifting up the pedestal guard, and 
applying butyl rubber to the bottom.  If that works, great.  But, how would I 
also more permanently stop water ingress due to water finding its way between 
the tube and the foot?

Thanks for your ideas!

Bruce Whitmore

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092<tel:(847)%20404-5092> (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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