I got scammed too. Not realizing there was a difference until too late.
The scammers sent a notice for renewal (it looked official) prior to the
official one by the US Coast Guard. I thought the US Coast Guard raised the
rates for the documentation, which is not true, as I found out.
The scammers charge $75 for the service, while the US Coast Guard charges
$26 for the real document. I tried to get my money back from the scammers,
but they have no refund policy. I was furious with them. Don't be fooled
by these lame scammers!!!
Tim
SV Sly Fox
Essex Jct. VT
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Vessel documentation renewal - those scammers again
(Hoyt, Mike)
2. Re: Vessel documentation renewal - those scammers again
(Josh Muckley)
3. Binnacle mounted Aqua Meter Galaxy Compass/parts (Scott Baker)
4. Re: Anyone Have A Stack Pack? (Ken Heaton)
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 16:50:34 +0000
From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Vessel documentation renewal - those scammers
again
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Hi Dennis
It seems a bit different in Canada. I received something in mail from
Transport Canada that I was not expecting. Upon opening it was the new
certificate of registration. They issue one every three years. I did not
even request it ? it just came automatically.
The even better news is that they also did not require me to pay anything.
Mike
Persistence V
Halifax, NS
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 1:44 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Stus-List Vessel documentation renewal - those scammers again
Well, gee. I just got my "courtesy" renewal notice from "Maritime
Documentation Center". I promptly emailed them an "official notice of
shame". :)
For those who are new the list a while and haven't seen our derision at
these folks, let me elaborate. The "Maritime Documentation Center" is NOT
the US Coast Guard's Vessel Documentation Center (VDC). It is a third party
entity who will gladly charge you three times the fee of the VDC for doing
what you can do on the VDC's website in under 5 minutes. It's not illegal,
just irritating.
They simply send you an official looking courtesy notice for renewal. It
may show up slightly before the USCG VDC's real renewal notice.
Do not be fooled. The VDC fee for renewal is $26. Pay no more. The
official VDC website is here:
https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/Deputy-for-Operations-Policy-and-C
apabilities-DCO-D/National-Vessel-Documentation-Center/
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 12:23:32 -0500
From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Vessel documentation renewal - those scammers
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Stop bragging Mike!
On Thu, May 17, 2018, 11:51 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Hi Dennis
>
>
>
> It seems a bit different in Canada. I received something in mail from
> Transport Canada that I was not expecting. Upon opening it was the
> new certificate of registration. They issue one every three years. I
> did not even request it ? it just came automatically.
>
>
>
> The even better news is that they also did not require me to pay anything.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence V
>
> Halifax, NS
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Dennis C. via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2018 1:44 PM
> *To:* CnClist
> *Cc:* Dennis C.
> *Subject:* Stus-List Vessel documentation renewal - those scammers
> again
>
>
>
> Well, gee. I just got my "courtesy" renewal notice from "Maritime
> Documentation Center". I promptly emailed them an "official notice of
> shame". :)
>
>
>
> For those who are new the list a while and haven't seen our derision
> at these folks, let me elaborate. The "Maritime Documentation Center"
> is NOT the US Coast Guard's Vessel Documentation Center (VDC). It is
> a third party entity who will gladly charge you three times the fee of
> the VDC for doing what you can do on the VDC's website in under 5
> minutes. It's not illegal, just irritating.
>
>
>
> They simply send you an official looking courtesy notice for renewal.
> It may show up slightly before the USCG VDC's real renewal notice.
>
>
>
> Do not be fooled. The VDC fee for renewal is $26. Pay no more. The
> official VDC website is here:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/Deputy-for-Operations-Policy
> -and-Capabilities-DCO-D/National-Vessel-Documentation-Center/
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 18:15:36 +0000
From: Scott Baker <sc...@anglersportgroup.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Binnacle mounted Aqua Meter Galaxy Compass/parts
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Hi Crew, I have a Aqua Meter "Galaxy" Binnacle Compass on my C&C 35 III. I'm
going to get a new dome and gasket from Viking for it, but I understand that
they are out of the plastic rings that the compass sits under. The plastic
ring I have is cracked and has 4 plastic mounts inside that you screw it
into the holding mount with. 3 of those mounts are broken in my unit. So I'm
trying to find spare parts... or an entire compass to scavenge parts from.
Anybody have one laying around? I found one online at Dukes in Sausalito, CA
but they want $150 for it... I'll probably get that one if no one here can
help me.
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 17:47:41 -0300
From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?
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Our cover attaches to the sides of the boom.
Questions & Answers:
(1) should the cover be fully up when dropping the sail or eased? Ours is
fully up.
(2) what kind of extension or line do people use on the zipper car? We have
a rope about 3' long attached to the zipper pull so we can reach across the
dodger, etc.
(3) is it typical to have to "stuff" the sail into the cover before zipping?
Or is my problem just a new stiff sail? A stiff new sail is definitely part
of the problem, but we do have to pull back a bit on the main in a few
places to get it to drop into the cradle a bit more sometimes.
(4) can the mast cover be left in place when sailing, dropping the sail?
We don't but our design is a bit different than yours as leaving this cover
in place would make raising the main impossible.
(5) is it better to let the sail drop quickly - letting go of the halyard -
or easing it down? Ours works best if we drop it all at once, and even
better if it is flapping a bit as it falls.
This is what our cover looks like when the jack lines are brought to the
mast (usually to the horns but not in this photo) and the cover is rolled up
along the side of the boom and fastened down with the little straps built in
for this. We only do this if we will be out for hours.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5R8tdl5V2ZU19NJl2
Ken H.
On 17 May 2018 at 12:27, Tony Wroblewski via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> wrote:
> I am new to the stack pack family - just installed this week. Ours is
> a Doyle Cradle Cover (Doyle Stack Pack not attached to the sail).
> Mast had a Tides track. The sail is also new a North 3Di and very
> stiff. I could use any tips on handling this system because I'm
> having trouble getting the sail into the cover enough to zip it up.
> Zipper and top of cover is approx. 8' above the deck at the mast. Very
> hard to reach especially over the cockpit. Have 1 step at the mast
> but still feel like Tarzan swinging from a vine when putting the sail in.
It would probably help if I were 7'
> tall!
>
> Questions:
>
> (1) should the cover be fully up when dropping the sail or eased?
>
> (2) what kind of extension or line do people use on the zipper car?
> There's a you tube video of a continuous line zipper trolley that
> looks good but no info on how it's rigged.
>
> (3) is it typical to have to "stuff" the sail into the cover before
> zipping? Or is my problem just a new stiff sail?
>
> (4) can the mast cover be left in place when sailing, dropping the sail?
>
> (5) is it better to let the sail drop quickly - letting go of the
> halyard
> - or easing it down?
>
> (6) any other helpful hints would be appreciated.
>
>
> thanks
>
> Tony
>
> C&C 41 C/B #96
>
> Triumph
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of
> bwhitmore via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2018 10:56 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* bwhitmore
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?
>
> Fyi, when we are sailing, we do not remove our short cover that goes
> around the mast and is zipped on both sides. The zippers are far
> enough forward that chafing the sail has never concerned me. Zipping
> and unzipping the stack pack has been made much easier by attaching a
> sail tie to the long zipper car, as I am too short to reach up above
> the stack pack. I also added two foldable aluminum mast steps so I
> can step up the front of the mast enough to finish the last of the zip
> & tuck. I can take photos and post them if anyone is interested.
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+
> "Astralis"
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: 5/16/18 7:46 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Anyone Have A Stack Pack?
>
> This is what our main looks like after just dropping it, without
> taking any time to zip the cover shut or to put the separate front
> cover on (similar to Josh's setup).
>
> https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vcTap2SToF8/WlARaGxmTCI/AAAAAAABqLU/8OJ_
> WtmY6JkgY7o6zOjQfjyXcRM2G92mACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_2574%2BSalazar.jpg
>
> This is what it looks like zipped up and with the front cover on as well:
>
> https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U-z3eISLNhQ/WlAUw3PY9WI/AAAAAAABqMY/te2nqCi
> k- GUjlHJoZvQPfRKgWtKgWLoqwCPcBGAYYCw/s1600/20130811_Salazar%
> 2Bat%2BBen%2BEoin%2BMarina_0030.JPG
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 16 May 2018 at 20:04, Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have a sail pack custom made by my sail maker - Clark McKinney at
> Quantum Sails in Solomons, MD. It makes packing the sail quite simple
> but be warned, the boom height can still make zipping the pack and
> flaking down the sail a bit awkward. I shopped around to various sail
> makers and off the shelf products and finally decided on the
> customizations afforded by using a local canvas maker. Had I done it
> myself with the existing lazy jacks my lead would have come off the
> mast too low and too narrow. I have a tides marine strong track with
> 5 battons so the stack height had to be carefully accounted for.
>
> I was also involved with the design of the forward part of the pack
> cover. Some have a large flap that wraps around the front of the mast
> and zips into the opposite side. I didn't like the unanswerable
> question of what happens to this flap during the sail? Another design
> option (better but not great) is to have the flap unzip on both sides
> of the pack allowing it to be removed completely during sail use. I
> was concerned about potential chafe of the zippers on the sail and
> mast. The sail maker took my suggestion and built a short sail cover.
> It works like a normal cover and goes on top of the closed sail pack,
> its just short. It extends about
> 2 or 3 feet down the boom. It finishes off and protects the leading
> edge of the pack and sail and also protects the head board of the sail.
>
> Since then the same sailmaker has further experimented and has
> developed a schrunchie elasticated area that automatically closes the
> leading edge of the pack with no other action required by the user.
>
> Get with me off list and I can provide pictures, costs, and contact info.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018, 2:10 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Listers,
>
> Has anyone installed a Stack Pack (http://www.doylesails.com/sta
> ckpack/index.html) or similar? Pros? Cons?
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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