Marek,
Your are absolutely correct....the positioning of the cleat in the right
place is critical....when I bought my boat, it came with the SS toe rail
cleats....the first year, I thought they were a bit aft of mid ship to
be correct but I learned after being at the pier with on spring line on
them and doing an oil change and running the engine after, in gear
(1,200 to 1,400 RPM's) that the boat just lay up against the
pier/fenders and seemed perfectly balanced. In 13 seasons, I have not
moved them....why would I?
If anyone didn't like taking his boat in and out of a slip, single
handed most times, it was me. I was initially more concerned about
docking alone than leaving. A season and a half later, I am
wiser.....docking I have confidence in.....leaving with the wrong wind,
blowing me into the big aircraft carrier next to me (Nonsuch 36) and I
only have approx.3 feet between our boats requires more thought and
seamanship.
Know your limitations, and your boat's limitations.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
Watching videos, reading, etc is all good, however, you have to do it to
get your confidence
On 2018-08-02 3:16 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:
If you have the mid-ship cleat in the right place, the forward
pressure by the motor would make the boat to cling to the finger. It
is a question of positioning the cleat in the right place. With the
toe rail that is standard on most of the C&C, this is not an issue,
because you can move the attachment point, almost as you wish (I don’t
have the toe rail with holes in it on my boat, so this does not work
so well).
Probably the best is to experiment. If the cleat is too far aft, you
risk that the bow would swing out; if it is too far forward, you risk
that the stern would not want to stay by the finger.
Marek
1994 C270 “Legato”
Ottawa, ON
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I use the midship SS toe rail cleat without issue.
With just a spring line decelerating the boat, how do you stop the bow
from swinging into the finger and the stern from swinging out? This
is the reason I have a stern/spring line combo for my setup.
Tightening the stern line from the cockpit (or dock) once the spring
is loaded stops that.
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Dennis:
One guy at our club single hands his J120 regularly.....he installed a
deck cleat about mid ship....he approaches the finger pier at approx.
1 to 2 knts, steps off the boat as the starboard gate meets the pier,
picks up his spring line which has a 'snubber' and attaches to the mid
ship cleat....if he wind is strong to blow him off the pier, he leaves
the engine in gear at idle speed and the boat just lays up against the
pier. Like you, he has little room for forward movement once the
spring line is attached. The big Nonsuch 36 next to me does the
same thing.
Another member has a 'line catcher' at the end of his pier where he
hangs his spring line when he leaves. On approach, he either reaches
out or uses a pole to grab the spring line and attaches to his mid
ship deck cleat....once attached and the boat comes to a stop leaving
the engine in gear at idle speed, he gets off the boat and attaches
his lines. He doesn't step off his boat to attach the spring line as
there is too much freeboard and he is not comfortable making a jump to
the pier from that height.....it's a big boat, centre cockpit and no
one is going to 'man handle' it the way we can with our C&C's
My method, earlier described, is similar however I use my main winch
because I don't have a mid ship deck cleat.....I have one of those SS
toe rail cleats which I don't think was designed to stop the forward
movement of the boat, at least I am not going to experiment to find out.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32-84
Halifax, N.S.
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