For what it is worth, my boat came with Marlon all around. I've had absolutely no trouble at all and strongly recommend.
Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 5:15 PM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > FWIW, I’m not a big fan of marelon where there is a potential for > breakage. I would be reluctant to use marelon seacocks for the cockpit > scuppers on my boat. I can envision crawling around in that space (like > working on the quadrant) and inadvertently breaking a seacock by pushing on > it with my foot for leverage (without knowing what I’m pushing on). > > *From:* sender via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 05, 2019 3:20 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* sender <victoriaene...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue > > Thanks to all who responded. > > I was hoping there would be an abundance of people in a similar situation, > successfully freeing up the seacocks without too much difficulty. There > wasn't, so I think I'm going to go the route of replacing with Marelon > seacocks and hopefully be done with it for good. > > The secondary discussion about the lines crossing, is interesting, but > I've never noticed any back-up of water through the existing arrangement. > It seems to me for the crossed arrangement to work, the windward hull > fitting would have to be well above the healed waterline to avoid water > ingress, which means you would't get drainage of any spray when healed. Am > I missing something here? > > Thanks again, > Eric > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 7:18 AM Neil Andersen via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> But by crossing the hoses, you don’t end up wit a situation where the >> scupper and thru-hull are both below the waterline when healed. >> >> Neil Andersen >> 1982 C&C 32 FoxFire >> Rock Hall, MD >> >> Neil Andersen >> 20691 Jamieson Rd >> Rock Hall, MD 21661 >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Matthew L. >> Wolford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 10:08 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc:* Matthew L. Wolford >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue >> >> Agreed that cockpit drains should always be open and functioning >> correctly. I had one closed for some repair work on my old Ranger 26 and >> decided it would be safe to race the boat with one functioning cockpit >> drain. Worked great as long as we were on the right tack. We were >> nervously bailing on the other tack several miles offshore. Never again. >> >> I am curious to hear more about the idea of crossing the hoses. It does >> not make sense to me as the far side thru-hull would be higher when >> heeled. >> >> *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 30, 2018 10:19 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Cc:* Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue >> >> I apologize for creating confusion. For the reasons stated by Andrew >> Burton, DO NOT shut cockpit drains. Period. My statement was supposed to >> be that having seacocks open while not in use, or while away from the the >> boat was an invitation for desaster. A better practice would be to >> relocate the cockpit drains to a location above the waterline which would >> eliminate the need for isolation valves and the subsequent risk incurred by >> the necessity of leaving them open. >> >> I also went on to suggest that in order to keep them above water on all >> angles of heel that you MAY need to cross the drains port-stbd though >> depending on the discharge location this may cause the cockpit drains to be >> lower than the discharge ports and subsequently not drain until the next >> tack. A more centralized drain is a better solution. As mentioned by >> others a discharge in the transom is a good solution. You want it as high >> above waterline as possible but below the cockpit floor. >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 10:03 AM PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Maybe dumb question but I have only been sailing on C&c 40 for 3 years. >>> (J24 Catalina oday all had open cockpit drains out stern) >>> >>> When sailing do people regularly close cockpit drains I am on the side >>> mine are always open but I did service mine which required them to be taken >>> apart(frozen open— lots of pb. Blaster and kroil oil and careful >>> persuasion) ). So if I wanted to I could close them I could >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Peter >>> C&c 40 aft 1983 >>> Portland me >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 30, 2018, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> Cockpit drain seacocks most assuredly should not be closed when no one >>> is aboard...unless you plan to swim in your cockpit! >>> Andy >>> >>> Andrew Burton >>> 139 Tuckerman Ave >>> Middletown, RI >>> USA 02842 >>> >>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >>> +401 965-5260 >>> >>> On Dec 30, 2018, at 05:10, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> That was poor engineering to begin with. Seacocks should be closed when >>> not in use and more importantly when not on board - particularly those >>> below the water line. There is no time when your cockpit drains will not >>> be in use. Besides, seacocks that are inaccessible never get closed. I >>> suggest looking for a place to re-route your drains, to a location above >>> the waterline, without valves, and then permanently retire the through >>> hulls. >>> >>> Also consider the waterline when heeled. You may have to cross port and >>> starboard. >>> >>> Josh Muckley >>> S/V Sea Hawk >>> 1989 C&C 37+ >>> Solomons, MD >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 11:18 PM sender via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I bought earlier this year a C&C 32. One issue the surveyor pointed >>>> out is the seacocks for the cockpit drains are stuck in the open position. >>>> This boat has spent it's known history in cold salt water on the west coast >>>> of BC. >>>> >>>> I'm interested to know if anyone else has had this same type of >>>> seacock, and had success freeing it up. >>>> >>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xp1haN2nPHUneETUA >>>> >>>> The starboard side one is only barely accessible through the 12"x 12" >>>> panel in the aft end of the quarter-birth. If it was reasonably >>>> accessible, I'd just replace it, but to get 2 hands on it I'd probably have >>>> to go through the locker and remove the fuel tank. >>>> >>>> The other pic is a fitting on the rudder tube. I assume this is (well, >>>> was) a grease cup. Has anyone taken one of these on? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eric >>>> C&C 32 Sirocco 2 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. 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