Interesting - looks like a angled chainplate on the forward starboard bulkhead. What for? Bit massive for a dinghy tie-down. . . Never seen that one before.
Hum?, Lee > On Apr 18, 2019, at 9:16 57AM, r fraser via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > Here is a link to local listed c&c 35 11 She is in Shediac New Brumswick and > has had same owner for 25 plus years with many many upgrades sure worth a > look for anyone looking for a good solid upgraded boat. > https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/moncton/c-c-35-mark-2/1421597548?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true > > -----Original Message----- From: cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 12:15 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 159, Issue 79 > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? (Shawn Wright) > 2. Re: Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? (John and Maryann Read) > 3. The bulge is back in town (Eugene Fodor) > 4. Re: Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? (Shawn Wright) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 19:54:37 -0700 > From: Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? > Message-ID: > <cacgflyvttizbdzv6rtccqr35d3j9fxbrn_ct0vvlvnublci...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes, I saw that listing when it came up the other day - the first 30 mk2 > locally that I've seen. I love the interior (on paper at least), but the > price might make me wonder if we should have bought a bigger boat. It may > sound strange, but I also don't want to get a boat that is *too* nice. It's > like having a nice car - I don't want to get really upset the first time I > crash the dock with a boat like that... so one with a few dings included > will be easier for me... :) > > Also, with the hopes of travelling down the coast to Mexico and beyond, > even a modern 30' might not be enough for long term comfort, although I > know people who gone around the globe (twice) in a 27... > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 7:12 PM Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com> > wrote: > >> Shawn have you seen this boat? >> https://nanaimo.craigslist.org/boa/d/ladysmith-1989-cc-30-mk2-sloop/6865778294.html >> >> It?s true the 30 MK I layout is simple and the appointments spartan in the >> early hull numbers like mine. That?s OK for me, I keep her stripped down >> and only occasionally sleep or cook aboard. >> >> The MK II listed above is more luxurious, and the asking price may reflect >> that. Perhaps the seller would consider a lower offer. >> >> Cheers, >> Randy >> >> On Apr 17, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Ron, >> >> Ok, here's the backstory... We started out looking at 27-30' boats, with >> the hope of finding a C&C 30-1 based on what I'd read about its stiffness. >> The first one we found was $25K and although it was in very good condition, >> we just weren't that impressed, mainly with the interior layout. Gradually >> I started looking at anything up to about $35K, which has included a lot of >> boats: Westsail 32, Nicholson 31 & 35 (both very nice boats - should have >> bought the 35), Alberg 37, Niagara 35, Ericson 29, 30+, 32, 35, Newport 28, >> 33, C&C 35-2, 36, 37. Of these, the C&C 35-2 and Nicholson 35 have >> impressed me the most. The Nicholson is probably one of 3-4 on the >> continent, so I don't expect to find another. The C&C 35-2 seems like a >> great fit, but I don't expect I'll find another for $25K around here. >> >> My wife grew up boating on a 26' wooden powerboat that her Dad built, >> travelling to Desolation Sound every summer, so she is pretty comfortable >> on the water, but has only sailed a few times on dinghies - Laser, Sunfish >> and MacGregor 26. The MacGregor freaks her out because it gives the >> illusion of a big boat with the stability of a dinghy. She's fine in a >> Laser... she even hauled prawn traps from one last summer... :) >> >> Finally, I am deciding between a "starter boat" around $10K, knowing that >> we'll still look for the right boat. I don't want to pay much more than >> $10K for a boat that will only last 1-2 years as the 12% sales tax is then >> just throwing money away. If we find what seems like a good long term boat >> for $25K or so, we'll go for it, but so far, that has been an elusive item. >> Every $25K boat has either been an overpriced $15K boat (like that mint C&C >> 30), or a $35-40K boat that needs work. I'm ok with a boat that needs some >> work, provided I can sail it while doing the work over time (so it needs a >> decent engine, sails and rigging). After almost a year of this search, I no >> longer have the time for a project boat. >> >> So that's why a $10K boat makes sense to me... Is the 29 is that boat? I >> don't know... >> >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:03 PM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Shawn.....take me behind why a 29 for 10K makes sense for you. >>> For my taste.....if your wife is uncomfortable sailing....you want to >>> rethink this. >>> Mine has had only miserable experiences in the 30 years of sailing..... >>> All of my early boats were too small..... >>> I now have probably the best Rob Ball design ever... >>> I bought a 38MKII for 20k 20 years ago... >>> You should think bigger....and when your wife finally stops >>> sailing.....you end up with a real race machine.... >>> >>> Just thinking ahead.... Ron >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Xfinity Connect Application >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Cc: johnr...@aol.com >>> Sent: 2019-04-17 8:31:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? >>> >>> Is this a 29 Mark I or Mark II?? >>> >>> I love my Mark II. Not tender to me as an old dingy sailor. Yes, >>> nimble, quick, responsive. >>> >>> There is another Mark II at my club with a shorter rudder than mine and I >>> understand he does have more problems with broaching. I have raced mine in >>> 40+gusts and won that race under PHRF. One broach in 7 years when crew did >>> not take the main sheet with him while hiking in order to be ready to >>> release in conditions that might warrant it. >>> >>> Suddenly went from a north bound boat to a south bound boat. Best broach >>> of my life. Boat just flipped around and we went on sailing. No one hurt. >>> >>> John McLaughlin >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mark A. Watson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> Cc: Mark A. Watson <m...@watsonandson.com> >>> Sent: Wed, Apr 17, 2019 2:32 pm >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? >>> >>> Strangly >>> >>> I have a C&C 41 - love it >>> Hate going in reverse its always a crap shoot. Goes up wind like a vacuum >>> cleaner. Best at 25 - 30 degrees >>> Hull had one small blister at last years haul out. Oh and the traditional >>> keel smile. Great construction and smart above and below deck fittings and >>> appointments. >>> >>> Not sure what else would be relevant >>> >>> Mark Watson >>> Trinity - 1977 Newport 41 >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/17/2019 9:23 AM, Jeremy Dinsel via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> I happen to have a C&C 29 from the exact same year. It is a little tender >>> at the dock as it?ll move a bit when it?s boarded, but underway it feels >>> fine to me. I?m a new boat owner and this is the first boat I?ve owned. I >>> obtained it for a similar price and put a good amount into it to replace >>> the standing and running rigging as well as the sails. I have the original >>> universal diesel, so if your option has been repowered, that might be a >>> great addition. >>> >>> Under full power (with a 120% Genoa), the boat heels fairly comfortably >>> and races forwarded in up to 14 kts. I?d recommend reefing by 14 kts, but >>> it is situationally relevant. I have been out in 20 kts under full sail and >>> found it aggressive as the boat was able to point up to 15 degrees off the >>> wind but still didn?t dip the toe rail. I dropped the sails quickly for my >>> own comfort as well as my crew?s. >>> >>> It?s been my opinion that comfort with heeling comes from time and >>> experience on boats. Much like someone else mentioned, conditions and >>> training even for catamaran appreciators will eventually win over >>> relatively new sailors. >>> >>> There?s little I?d change in my 29?. I?d recommend getting a survey and >>> seeing if it?s still the best deal on the market. No matter what you go >>> with, keep your crew in mind while helping them to gain the time and >>> experience required to become comfortable. Find other friends with more >>> experience that your crew knows and respects and give them the helm. I?ve >>> found that having my friend Kristin aboard gives me ample time to compare >>> my level of comfort vs her?s. She?s far more experienced than I am, and is >>> the perfect bell weather. >>> >>> Jeremy Dinsel >>> C&C 29 1977 >>> Seattle, Wa >>> >>> iTypo'd expressly for you. >>> >>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 18:00, Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm interested in opinions of a '77 C&C 29. There is one named "Tooth & >>> Nail" that has been for sale in Vancouver for some time now. The photos >>> look good, apparently has a good sail inventory, decent Yanmar engine, >>> wheel steering. Apparently a popular local race boat (so it may be beat >>> up?) >>> >>> It doesn't seem likely that we're going to find a 35' this season, so I'm >>> looking at smaller, cheaper boats so we can begin sailing while still keep >>> an eye out for the right boat. At the moment, the smaller, cheaper boats >>> include a very well kept Ericson 29, and this C&C 29, both for around $12K >>> CAD. >>> >>> One reason I overlooked the 29 in the past was based on where it sits on >>> the stability diagram - right at the top among the most tender of all >>> boats. How serious a concern is this for cruising as keelboat beginners? I >>> don't want to scare my wife, who has very little sailing experience, with a >>> very tender boat. She gets uncomfortable when sailing on a friend's >>> Macgregor 26, which seems to heel over at the slightest gust. >>> >>> -- >>> Shawn Wright >>> shawngwri...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >>> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >>> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>> Virus-free. >>> www.avg.com >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Shawn Wright >> shawngwri...@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> >> > > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190417/8617504c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:19:33 -0400 > From: "John and Maryann Read" <johnprea...@gmail.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? > Message-ID: <005501d4f5d8$9a6d1c50$cf4754f0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Shawn > > > > Have you considered a C&C34?? Owned ours for 20 years and love it. Sails > like a dream. Easily handled by 2. Great layout. Full headroom, enclosed > head with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & cold > pressurized water, full length bunks. Cruises 4 well including their gear. > No generic build or design issues. There are several on Yachtworld > attractively priced. The later hull numbers have a better interior finish > (475 built). Of course at this vintage individual condition may vary. > > My 2 cents American > > > > John and Maryann > > Legacy III > > 1982 C&C 34 > > Noank, CT > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190418/da2a9a3f/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:06:42 -0500 > From: Eugene Fodor <efo...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List The bulge is back in town > Message-ID: > <CABCoE4eOCs=c+yngrdjbmtz784xtano21vhf6dvab3nnuyr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel > bolt on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but > found nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do > the same thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and > expands recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own > the boat unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an > easier plan. I have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose, > but it seems like that might take a while. > > Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the > pictures, but the cracking is the telltale. > > Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this > issue? > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8 > > Thanks, > > Gene Fodor > Hawk > C&C 29-2 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190418/fe4011e2/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:14:56 -0700 > From: Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? > Message-ID: > <CACGFLYX+x0bO9ce5+ug5BUQOSfVAbjkQY4=px-oy8hrt1q5...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King, > whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is > only one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price > is a bit more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might > be a slow seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all, > except the cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there > is a C&C model between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just > finding one near me at a decent price is the problem. > > This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver > to see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW). > https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing > > I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit slower, > but maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than the later > blade. Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics. > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hi Shawn >> >> >> >> Have you considered a C&C34?? Owned ours for 20 years and love it. Sails >> like a dream. Easily handled by 2. Great layout. Full headroom, enclosed >> head with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot & >> cold pressurized water, full length bunks. Cruises 4 well including their >> gear. No generic build or design issues. There are several on Yachtworld >> attractively priced. The later hull numbers have a better interior finish >> (475 built). Of course at this vintage individual condition may vary. >> >> My 2 cents American >> >> >> >> John and Maryann >> >> Legacy III >> >> 1982 C&C 34 >> >> Noank, CT >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. 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