Here is a link to local listed c&c 35 11 She is in Shediac New Brumswick and
has had same owner for 25 plus years with many many upgrades sure worth a
look for anyone looking for a good solid upgraded boat.
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/moncton/c-c-35-mark-2/1421597548?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
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1. Re: Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? (Shawn Wright)
2. Re: Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? (John and Maryann Read)
3. The bulge is back in town (Eugene Fodor)
4. Re: Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? (Shawn Wright)
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 19:54:37 -0700
From: Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?
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Yes, I saw that listing when it came up the other day - the first 30 mk2
locally that I've seen. I love the interior (on paper at least), but the
price might make me wonder if we should have bought a bigger boat. It may
sound strange, but I also don't want to get a boat that is *too* nice. It's
like having a nice car - I don't want to get really upset the first time I
crash the dock with a boat like that... so one with a few dings included
will be easier for me... :)
Also, with the hopes of travelling down the coast to Mexico and beyond,
even a modern 30' might not be enough for long term comfort, although I
know people who gone around the globe (twice) in a 27...
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 7:12 PM Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>
wrote:
Shawn have you seen this boat?
https://nanaimo.craigslist.org/boa/d/ladysmith-1989-cc-30-mk2-sloop/6865778294.html
It?s true the 30 MK I layout is simple and the appointments spartan in the
early hull numbers like mine. That?s OK for me, I keep her stripped down
and only occasionally sleep or cook aboard.
The MK II listed above is more luxurious, and the asking price may reflect
that. Perhaps the seller would consider a lower offer.
Cheers,
Randy
On Apr 17, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hi Ron,
Ok, here's the backstory... We started out looking at 27-30' boats, with
the hope of finding a C&C 30-1 based on what I'd read about its stiffness.
The first one we found was $25K and although it was in very good
condition,
we just weren't that impressed, mainly with the interior layout. Gradually
I started looking at anything up to about $35K, which has included a lot
of
boats: Westsail 32, Nicholson 31 & 35 (both very nice boats - should have
bought the 35), Alberg 37, Niagara 35, Ericson 29, 30+, 32, 35, Newport
28,
33, C&C 35-2, 36, 37. Of these, the C&C 35-2 and Nicholson 35 have
impressed me the most. The Nicholson is probably one of 3-4 on the
continent, so I don't expect to find another. The C&C 35-2 seems like a
great fit, but I don't expect I'll find another for $25K around here.
My wife grew up boating on a 26' wooden powerboat that her Dad built,
travelling to Desolation Sound every summer, so she is pretty comfortable
on the water, but has only sailed a few times on dinghies - Laser, Sunfish
and MacGregor 26. The MacGregor freaks her out because it gives the
illusion of a big boat with the stability of a dinghy. She's fine in a
Laser... she even hauled prawn traps from one last summer... :)
Finally, I am deciding between a "starter boat" around $10K, knowing that
we'll still look for the right boat. I don't want to pay much more than
$10K for a boat that will only last 1-2 years as the 12% sales tax is then
just throwing money away. If we find what seems like a good long term boat
for $25K or so, we'll go for it, but so far, that has been an elusive
item.
Every $25K boat has either been an overpriced $15K boat (like that mint
C&C
30), or a $35-40K boat that needs work. I'm ok with a boat that needs some
work, provided I can sail it while doing the work over time (so it needs a
decent engine, sails and rigging). After almost a year of this search, I
no
longer have the time for a project boat.
So that's why a $10K boat makes sense to me... Is the 29 is that boat? I
don't know...
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:03 PM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Shawn.....take me behind why a 29 for 10K makes sense for you.
For my taste.....if your wife is uncomfortable sailing....you want to
rethink this.
Mine has had only miserable experiences in the 30 years of sailing.....
All of my early boats were too small.....
I now have probably the best Rob Ball design ever...
I bought a 38MKII for 20k 20 years ago...
You should think bigger....and when your wife finally stops
sailing.....you end up with a real race machine....
Just thinking ahead.... Ron
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Sent: 2019-04-17 8:31:35 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?
Is this a 29 Mark I or Mark II??
I love my Mark II. Not tender to me as an old dingy sailor. Yes,
nimble, quick, responsive.
There is another Mark II at my club with a shorter rudder than mine and I
understand he does have more problems with broaching. I have raced mine
in
40+gusts and won that race under PHRF. One broach in 7 years when crew
did
not take the main sheet with him while hiking in order to be ready to
release in conditions that might warrant it.
Suddenly went from a north bound boat to a south bound boat. Best broach
of my life. Boat just flipped around and we went on sailing. No one
hurt.
John McLaughlin
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29?
Strangly
I have a C&C 41 - love it
Hate going in reverse its always a crap shoot. Goes up wind like a vacuum
cleaner. Best at 25 - 30 degrees
Hull had one small blister at last years haul out. Oh and the traditional
keel smile. Great construction and smart above and below deck fittings
and
appointments.
Not sure what else would be relevant
Mark Watson
Trinity - 1977 Newport 41
On 4/17/2019 9:23 AM, Jeremy Dinsel via CnC-List wrote:
I happen to have a C&C 29 from the exact same year. It is a little tender
at the dock as it?ll move a bit when it?s boarded, but underway it feels
fine to me. I?m a new boat owner and this is the first boat I?ve owned. I
obtained it for a similar price and put a good amount into it to replace
the standing and running rigging as well as the sails. I have the
original
universal diesel, so if your option has been repowered, that might be a
great addition.
Under full power (with a 120% Genoa), the boat heels fairly comfortably
and races forwarded in up to 14 kts. I?d recommend reefing by 14 kts, but
it is situationally relevant. I have been out in 20 kts under full sail
and
found it aggressive as the boat was able to point up to 15 degrees off
the
wind but still didn?t dip the toe rail. I dropped the sails quickly for
my
own comfort as well as my crew?s.
It?s been my opinion that comfort with heeling comes from time and
experience on boats. Much like someone else mentioned, conditions and
training even for catamaran appreciators will eventually win over
relatively new sailors.
There?s little I?d change in my 29?. I?d recommend getting a survey and
seeing if it?s still the best deal on the market. No matter what you go
with, keep your crew in mind while helping them to gain the time and
experience required to become comfortable. Find other friends with more
experience that your crew knows and respects and give them the helm. I?ve
found that having my friend Kristin aboard gives me ample time to compare
my level of comfort vs her?s. She?s far more experienced than I am, and
is
the perfect bell weather.
Jeremy Dinsel
C&C 29 1977
Seattle, Wa
iTypo'd expressly for you.
On Apr 16, 2019, at 18:00, Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm interested in opinions of a '77 C&C 29. There is one named "Tooth &
Nail" that has been for sale in Vancouver for some time now. The photos
look good, apparently has a good sail inventory, decent Yanmar engine,
wheel steering. Apparently a popular local race boat (so it may be beat
up?)
It doesn't seem likely that we're going to find a 35' this season, so I'm
looking at smaller, cheaper boats so we can begin sailing while still
keep
an eye out for the right boat. At the moment, the smaller, cheaper boats
include a very well kept Ericson 29, and this C&C 29, both for around
$12K
CAD.
One reason I overlooked the 29 in the past was based on where it sits on
the stability diagram - right at the top among the most tender of all
boats. How serious a concern is this for cruising as keelboat beginners?
I
don't want to scare my wife, who has very little sailing experience, with
a
very tender boat. She gets uncomfortable when sailing on a friend's
Macgregor 26, which seems to heel over at the slightest gust.
--
Shawn Wright
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Hi Shawn
Have you considered a C&C34?? Owned ours for 20 years and love it. Sails
like a dream. Easily handled by 2. Great layout. Full headroom, enclosed
head with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot &
cold pressurized water, full length bunks. Cruises 4 well including their
gear. No generic build or design issues. There are several on Yachtworld
attractively priced. The later hull numbers have a better interior finish
(475 built). Of course at this vintage individual condition may vary.
My 2 cents American
John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT
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So my bilateral keelbolt bulge is back from water intrusion down the keel
bolt on my 29-2. Two years ago I drilled (hoping to release said water, but
found nothing), hammered, epoxied and painted it flat again. Planning to do
the same thing again. My guess is that the trapped water simply freezes and
expands recreating the bulge and I will have to do this as long as I own
the boat unless I make some major holes/repair. The former seems like an
easier plan. I have slight concern about the bolt eventually getting loose,
but it seems like that might take a while.
Pictures of the bulge at the link below. It is somewhat subtle in the
pictures, but the cracking is the telltale.
Any other thoughts on mitigation? Has anyone made a major repair for this
issue?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hWprkdNXtb8eMo2F8
Thanks,
Gene Fodor
Hawk
C&C 29-2
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:14:56 -0700
From: Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com>
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Thanks, John. I like the 34, and it's the only C&C designed by Bruce King,
whose designs I really like, in addition to Rob Ball and C&C. But there is
only one near me on the West Coast. It's in Gig Harbour, Wa and the price
is a bit more than our budget at 30K USD, although with a tiller, it might
be a slow seller. Beautiful boat, and the tiller wouldn't bother me at all,
except the cockpit seating is designed for a wheel. I don't know that there
is a C&C model between 29 and 38 that wouldn't be a good fit; it's just
finding one near me at a decent price is the problem.
This 1970 35-1 is interesting, and I will take a look if we go to Vancouver
to see the 29 that is listed at the same broker (not on YW).
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1970/c-c-35-3530795/?refSource=standard%20listing
I understand the 35-1 is lighter with shorter LWL, rates a tiny bit slower,
but maybe better in light air. The rudder is less effective than the later
blade. Not sure of other differences aside from minor cosmetics.
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
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Hi Shawn
Have you considered a C&C34?? Owned ours for 20 years and love it. Sails
like a dream. Easily handled by 2. Great layout. Full headroom,
enclosed
head with shower, 3 burner propane stove with oven, large ice box, hot &
cold pressurized water, full length bunks. Cruises 4 well including their
gear. No generic build or design issues. There are several on Yachtworld
attractively priced. The later hull numbers have a better interior finish
(475 built). Of course at this vintage individual condition may vary.
My 2 cents American
John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT
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