It's probably the lawyer in me, but 1. don't give cash, 2. don't give a post dated check...he needs to show some trust in you, and 3. don't trust him not to peddle your offer. period. a contract is a contract. The deal is with you or there is no deal. sorry, but I have seen a 1000 go bad. Bill Walker CnC 36
Bill Walker On Friday, April 19, 2019 Shawn Wright via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: I have told the seller already that I have $10K in cash (from the last deal that went south) ready to hand him, and the rest by cheque. I will give him a deposit and signed offer tomorrow after the sea trial. Is 10% a typical deposit? I will probably give him a cheque, post-dated to the date of the haulout, which is when we expect to complete, unless he wants cash. He has already stated that he wouldn't tell the other buyer the price, but would just tell him that sorry, he has accepted a written offer. It seems to contradict his earlier comment where he said he'd give the other guy the chance to make an offer, but I think he now has serious doubts about the other guy actually completing. We are prepared to complete as soon as I can be satisfied with an inspection, sea trial, and finally a haulout inspection (which is scheduled for 2 weeks from now). I'm trying hard to remain emotionally neutral (lots of practice at this!) and be prepared to walk if something serious comes up, or adjust the price accordingly, but I don't expect that to happen, aside from the deck issue around the chainplates. This is one area where a proper survey might pay for itself, if the surveyor could place a dollar figure on the repair, but surveyors are booking a month out right now. I will still keep trying though, since I will need one to renew insurance in a year anyway. (the insurance company has already agreed to reinsure for new owner based on 4 year old survey). I guess it's possible that something during the sea trial goes wrong also, but the boat is well equipped and said to sail so well, so this seems unlikely. Fingers crossed! On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 2:47 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: Like they say, money talks and bullshit walks – Eg, whomever has a deposit on the boat is first in line, inanything I have ever dealt with. Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie, PA Honestly, I would not let the seller peddle your offer to the otherbuyer. Tell seller if he accepts your offer you expect to hold him toit. If he feels he needs to give other buyer a last shot, he should sayto him, sign a contract or I am moving on to next in line... Bill Walker On Friday, April 19, 2019 Gary Russell via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Shawn, The 35 MkII is a fantastic boat (I owned one), but purchasing without a survey is quiterisky. You seem to understand that, so I won't belabor the point. Dennis isright (usually is), the tabbing of the forward bulkhead can be an issue, but isnot particularly difficult or expensive to fix. Mine was broken, but Ifixed it myself and never had any more problems. I would be moreconcerned about the balsa coring in the deck. Without the proper tools(moisture meter), I don't know how you are going to check for that. Youcan tap on the deck with the handle of a screwdriver, listening for the softersound, but without experience, I'm not sure how successful you will be. Do you have access to the mechanical inspection? Replacing the engine ortransmission for whatever reason can be very expensive. Should at leastdo an oil analysis of the engine and transmission as well as a compressioncheck of the engine. Are you experienced enough to evaluate the conditionof the sails. Even if they don't have rips or holes in them, it doesn'tmean they are not all bagged out and useless. A decent main sail mightcost you $3-4K. The reality is there are many things that can go wrongwith a sailboat that seem simple but cost a lot to fix. I'm not trying tobe negative, just realistic. If you get a good 35 Mk II, you will reallyenjoy a wonderful sailing boat. Best of luck, Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:49 PMDennis C. via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: Look at all the bulkhead/hulltabbing in the fore section. Forward of the head and hanging locker. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Apr 19, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List <[email protected]>wrote: I'm happy to report that wehave agreed on a price, subject to a sea trial and survey. Unfortunately, thereare no surveyors able to conduct a survey for 3-4 weeks, so we may considerforegoing that and instead do a very thorough inspection of the boat myself,followed by a haulout inspection in a few weeks. The situation is a bit unusual:the seller has done a sea trial with another buyer, and the buyer paid for a mechanicalinspection, and has a survey booked in 2 weeks. But that buyer has not made aformal offer (not sure why the seller didn't insist on this). The buyer hasbeen "waffling", and the seller doesn't seem confident he willcomplete, so he is inclined to accept an offer from us subject to a finalhaulout inspection by myself, and then tell the other party he has an acceptedoffer. It's still possible the other party will counter with ahigher offer. We will not go any higher, and I'm already a bit uncomfortableforegoing a survey, since we'll need one a year from now to renew the insurance(we can use a 4 year old survey for another year). That old survey showed noissues at all with the boat, including electrical and propane, two areas thatare usually a problem. As I said, a very unusual situation, but I think theseller is a solid guy, although I do question his selling practices - Iwouldn't have gone this far without an offer from the other guy, and I wouldn'tsqueeze the other guy out, since I know what that feels like... it's alreadyhappened to us once. Anyway, looking forward to thesea trial tomorrow. This will be the chance to see/hear the engine run, and getcomfortable with the sails and rigging. Appreciate any tips for things to watchfor. And I'm fully expecting a fewpeople to call me crazy, so don't sugar coat it... I am still prepared to walkaway if I get a bad feeling at any time. -- Shawn Wright [email protected] _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Eachand every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list -use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Eachand every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list -use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Eachand every one is greatly appreciated. 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