I'm glad to see such great dialog on this topic, and appreciate all the varied responses. Someone on the C&C FB group posted a video from a race in Ladysmith on Saturday, with only 3 boats braving the 25-40kn winds. I was sitting on the 35-2 at the dock that day and felt her shudder under the gusts. In the video I noticed how well the C&C 29 (mk2 I think) handled the conditions, cutting cleanly through the waves, while another boat, in the 32-35' range, with longer overhangs, was bobbing and hobby-horsing in the small chop. Of course, the C&C easily outsailed the larger boat, and looking far more comfortable doing it.
My wife and I spent some time on the boat last night with plan to make a final decision - we made a list of pros/cons for the boat, but still couldn't make a final decision, except to agree that we both feel it is overpriced. There are two many things that need attention before we can feel good about this boat: Electrical - she had a dream that the boat had an electrical fire. I might put this down to her fears, if I hadn't found the live battery cables for the third battery bank sitting uninsulated - these cables making contact could have easily started a fire. So I have to wonder what else is at risk. Cleaning - the boat is dirty inside and will require several days of cleaning. It is tidy, but looks like it hasn't had a good deep clean in years. The cushions may be original, and there is a musty boat smell which is likely in the foam. The zippers are seized, so removing the covers (they are otherwise in ok shape - oatmeal coloured fabric) may destroy them. The seat backs are stapled in, so there is no good way to clean them aside from a surface clean. So the old boat smell may not be easy to resolve, and new cushions is several boat bucks I expect, even if we do some work ourselves. Interior condition - many holes in the ceiling liner, some of them filled with epoxy leaving yellow stains which may be impossible to remove, even if I can cover the holes. Most of the teak panels have some kind of holes or damage in them, not horrible, but still detracts from the feel of the interior. No water damage fortunately. So the boat is being hauled tomorrow (I paid for). I will call the owner today to discuss, but I doubt he will be willing to make any concessions on the deal, so that may be the end of it. If he is willing to drop the price to $20K so I can put toward new electrical and cushion cleaning/repair, there is a chance we would go ahead, but this still leaves a whole lot of work for me to do in two weeks. I just keep hoping another suitable boat will come along to make it easier to walk away from this one, but anything less than another 35 will seem like a step down. On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:26 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Being able to change course while running down a big wave is very > important! A lot of the older traditional full keel boats could have a lot > of difficulty with this. > > My brother did get over enthusiastic on one wave with going straight down > a wave and I can report that the boat will resurface even if totally > stuffed underwater. YMMV if you have any hatches open! > > > > Then there is other side of the coin – an offshore boat can also be a > retirement home and spend vastly more time at anchor then in rough seas > offshore. Many C&Cs are fairly cramped as far as being a house goes. My > wife has informed me NFW are we living on any boats she can’t take a shower > in for one example of this issue L > > > > Joe > > Coquina > > C&C 35 MK I > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen > Thorne via CnC-List > *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 7:34 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Stephen Thorne <stephenltho...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C&C as offshore boat? > > > > I agree with Josh on all points. When I bought Deja Vu' I intended to > sail offshore on certain races but with most of the time local sailing & > racing on Lake Ponchatrain and the Gulf Coast area. We ended up doing a > lot more offshore sailing that originally planned and for the most part she > proved to be more than capable to handle the rigors of open ocean sailing. > One of many things about the boats performance that stood out was > maintaining almost perfect balance and steering control in large following > seas. Because of deep rudder? we all marveled at how much control we had > at helm, boat never felt out of control. This was always helpful and > especially sailing 145-155 degrees in 20' rolling seas where we didn't want > to go to the bottom of a wave trough under speed not being able to pivot. > <<< Otherwise we might have renamed her "Nautilus" ;) >>>> > > > > If I had been looking for a boat specifically to go cruising for long > extended periods to far off shores I would not have chosen a C&C, not > because the boat couldn't handle it but because I would want more creature > comforts. Our sailing now will mostly be on Lake Lanier, but we still have > Deja Vu' and all those great off shore adventures in our memories. > > > > Steve Thorne > > S/V Deja Vu' > > C&C 34/36+ > > Atlanta, GA > > t the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com
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