Locking wiping, whipping?


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line



The C&C 115 that I used to crew on had the same issue, tried smaller jaws in 
the clutch, which helped but not much. In the end, what worked was adding the 
second core to the 5' of halyard where the clutch needs to grab. On that boat, 
we also removed some core from the tail end of the halyard, which made feeding 
thru clutches easier. If you are doing this remember to add some locking wiping 
to keep everything in place. On the J35 I race on now we actually added a 
second clutch inline for the main and jib halyards, this helps but when it is 
really blowing we still take the halyards to a horn cleat as well (but no 
locking turn).



Morgan Ellis

S/V Meandher 30-2 #140

Thunder Bay, ON



On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 08:36, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Another thought is a horn or cam cleat aft of the clutches.  J boats all have 
cam cleats.  Our Frers has a horn cleat.  On windy days our main and jib 
halyards will slip if this is not used.  On the C&C 115 we would lose 2 feet of 
hoist on main if we did not tie off the halyard somehow.



Mike

Persistence

Halifax



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Subject: Re: Stus-List Adding cover to line



Before you bulk up your Halyards or change to a rope with a more aggressive 
cover, it would be good to know if the high tech but slippery halyard line is:

A. New to the boat?

B. If yes to the above, is it properly sized for the clutch?

C. If old, is there visible wear on the cover or signs of non-recoverable 
compression where the clutch holds the rope? Try end for ending the halyard to 
move the wear area to a different spot.  If wear seems excessive, replace the 
halyard before it comes apart under load.

D. Are the clutch teeth worn?  Depending on the brand of clutch, rebuild kits 
can be sourced.  If nothing else has changed on the boat and the halyard has 
just started slipping, this is the usual culprit.



Chuck Gilchrest

S/V HalfMagic

1983 35 LF

Padanaram, MA

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On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:24 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I have hi tech low stretch but slippery halyard which my clutches just won't 
hold.  Thinking of adding another cover at the point where they pass through 
clutch.
Any thoughts or solutions beyond replacing clutches or halyards.  now I take to 
a cleat, but cumbersome as I have both on same side with a single winch and 
when remove from winch get a little slip before can cleat off..
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi.

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