Can't the race committee protest OBSERVED violation under RSS 60.2? Bill Walker
On Sunday, December 22, 2019 detroito91 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Race Committee cannot protest if they see something wrong. Only observe.Jim Schwartz SEA YA !38 Landfall Washington nc Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 12/22/19 4:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Racing I believe the committee boat could have protested. In any event the protestee should have done turns or retired once the protestor announced protest regardless if it was a flag or a hat Mike Persistence Halifax, ns From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>On Behalf Of Shawn Wright via CnC-List Sent: December 22, 2019 3:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Racing Very true about the protest flag. Recently our crew was the Race Committee boat for club racing, and we witnessed a pretty severe rule violation at the start line, but the violated boat didn't have a protest flag, and tried to use a hat on the back stay instead. They knew it wouldn't be allowed so didn't file a protest (although I think the offending boat may have later taken a penalty turn as a precaution). I was surprised since these are all very experienced sailors, but I suppose it was just a Sunday club race. Presumably they would be better prepared in a more serious race, but maybe not. There are a few skippers who are very aware of the rules, and also a bit aggressive, and use this to their advantage to intimidate other boats, knowing that many will back down even if they don't have to. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 3:06 AM dwight veinot via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Racing sailboats inevitably leads to collisions between boats and lots of close calls. Collisions are not fun. Protest hearings are not fun and often not done for non- collision encounters where rules may have been violated therefore. Sailboat racing has a huge volume of rules which very few sailors know and know how to apply in close quarter encounters. Without protests and protest hearings racing can be a farce. But in my experience protests and hearings were scarce and some boats do not even carry a protest flag or if they do the crew does not know where to find it when it could reasonably be used. On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:21 PM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Racing....I don't do it anymore. But when I raced, I raced mostly with a core of 5 good friends, one my brother. I learned a lot over many years, on different boats, doing different jobs, full crew and short crew days, in all kinds of conditions. Over the years racing, I have spent some time on the foredeck... no one else wanted do it. Some days I thought that was a good thing, some days it was not so great....a sail change down in a heavy building breeze bouncing around up front in the spray...yea, this is fun. Now doing a spinnaker peel right felt really good.....especially in the middle of the fleet where everyone gets to see it done, and done smoothly. Head sails changes are done regularly but changing a spinnaker under sail could only be done smoothly if you had practiced it. We had some good races and we had some bad races. And we spent time practicing. We practiced to the point where, for example, where I could put my hand on a halyard and the pit man knew exactly what halyard and what to do with it without me shouting me back a command. After a race, the beers were open for the passage home. After the boat was docked. sails packed, etc. the first half hour was spent talking about the race....what did we do wrong, what went right. After that we normally got juvenile. In 1995, I wanted something different from racing....bought a Kirby 25 that we raced against as our main boat for boat competitor, the J24 fleet with 4 of the 5 original amigos....me and 3 of the amigos left my friend's C&C 34R to race the K25.......racing is totally different when you are on the helm and not on the foredeck when you get to a mark and there are 15 other boats there compared to normal handicap racing where twenty minutes after the start the fleet spreads out. No matter how you choose to race, it helps a lot if the crew can size up the competition, decide where they expect to place in their respective fleet....bottom 3rd, middle 3rd, or top 3rd. If you can get the crew to talk about this and agree, saves a lot of different expectations among crew. Racing is 50% boat, 50% crew and 50% luck on any given day. I have had the good fortune to have benefited from all three, and in a few races, all three! Robert Abbott AZURA C&C 32 #277 Halifax, N.S. _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Sent from Gmail Mobile _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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