So it actually WOULD kill someone with that awful stench! Good thing we turned 
it off. I had no idea the Freon would dissolve into the alcohol.

Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
www.dellabarba.com



From: sv Rebecca Leah [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 4:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Della Barba, Joe <[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Painful and/or lingering decisions

Joe,
When you burn Freon using propane, you produce Fozgene(sp) gas, which extremely 
deadly. Not sure if it the same with alcohol but would imagine it is. But at 
least you could see the flames. Lol.



Doug Mountjoy
Sv Rebecca Leah
C&C LF39
253-208-1412
Port Orchard YC wa.

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From: "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
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Date: 1/8/20 13:06 (GMT-08:00)
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Subject: Stus-List Painful and/or lingering decisions

I have a LOT of dumb ideas to pick from!
Long ago when we had an alcohol stove and you had to open the cockpit locker to 
pump the tank pressure up, I got the bright idea to run a hose around into the 
cabin and connect a Freon can from an air horn to the hose. It worked great, 
you pulled the horn valve until you saw the pressure you wanted, it took about 
10 seconds to get 10 PSI. What I had not counted on was the Freon had some sort 
of chemical interaction with the alcohol, it made the flames burn green and the 
smell was awful. About 30 seconds of it was enough! Not alcohol awful, I mean 
awful to the point I think it would have killed you in an enclosed area awful 
if you were dumb enough to hang around.

A more expensive one:
The original A4, after thousands of miles of use, had finally got so bad it was 
pretty much unusable. Out it went and we found another one for sale on Long 
Island in “great condition”. We drove all the way up and found it not exactly 
“great”, sort of a mix between great and found at bottom of a river by divers 
looking for a dead body. Should have left it, but I really needed an engine and 
it was cheap. It actually worked OK for a while but soon developed all kinds of 
issues. That one eventually came out and the next one that really was great 
went in. That A4 was rebuilt by ship’s chief engineer as a hobby while his ship 
was in drydock.  I bought it within 8 hours of his ad going up.


Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35  MK I
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From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 3:36 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Painful and/or lingering decisions

I'm sure most of us have a story (or two) about a boat related decision we made 
that we wish we'd done differently.  Many of them probably involve "cheaping 
it" or doing something in haste.  Some are painful; some are just lingering 
"shoulda woulda's".

One of my "lingering" ones is having my Navtec hydraulic backstay adjuster 
rebuilt by someone other than Lew Townsend out in Seattle (Lew was on extended 
vacation and I was impatient).  Went to boat this week after a couple weeks 
absence and the backstay was slack.....again.  The adjuster had eased an inch 
or so.  It holds fine for day sailing or a race but eases ever so slowly over a 
couple weeks.

One of my painful decisions was installing a Lewmar line adjustable genoa car 
system.  While it works "okay", it doesn't adjust as easily as a Harken system 
or perhaps a Garhauer system.

Perhaps sharing some of your stories will save others from similar regrettable 
decisions or, at worst, give us a chuckle.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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