Just realized that I sent my response directly to David instead of the list. As others have also sent messages, here is the scoop on my rigging project:
Kevin Montague at North East Rigging Systems did my standing rigging refit this spring. I think he did good work with high quality components and he is very knowledgeable. He also cares about customer success and has checked back in with me regarding the rig tune and other issues. However, he is not great at scheduling and project management (missed ordering parts in advance) and overbooks himself given that weather always gets in the way. This led to it taking longer and delaying launch a few weeks from my target completion date (after I had already delayed a month from the original plan to finish my deck refit). He had the rig starting in early February so I was a bit disappointed that it wasn’t ready to be installed at the end of June and I had to wait a few more weeks (ended up with a July 20th launch this year and was still waiting for the longer threaded rods for the turnbuckles as the ones Kevin had originally procured were not long enough to get cotter pins through). Granted with Covid it was a strange and difficult year all around. The main question on the rod inspection seems to be how regularly is the mast taken down and the fittings moved around (and perhaps if you are in salt water or not). If the ends are seized then you can't inspect them and the rod must be redheaded. Not super expensive (a few boat bucks) by itself until you find that you need to replace the through rods in the mast which are seized aluminum (replaced with stainless). Then the threaded parts at the end of the spreader stripped and needed to be replaced and the new ones didn't fit the spreader tip so that had to be machined ... and so on. Ended up with $7.5k in parts and tax and $4.5k in labor for the whole job, but as I said, that included a new wire forestay, furler, halyards, and masthead sheaves so it was probably about half of that for the rod rigging work and associated parts along with stepping the mast. Good peace of mind but it is a lot of money to put into an old boat and hey it lasted for 40 years already - so I am still not sure if it is a required investment. The problem is getting someone to work on it or even step it can be hard if the rods are seized in the fittings because of the liability so once I had the mast taken down I kind of had to do something. As others have noted, getting insurance can also be an issue. I have insurance with Boat US (Geico) which as has been noted many times on this list is not great insurance as they only pay current value which rapidly discounts everything, but on the other hand they aren't picky on the survey requirements (I don't believe that they have asked me for a hull or rigging survey in fact). So for me, I pretty much consider it to be total loss insurance and liability and I self insure for everything else less than a total loss. So far, attempts to get other insurance quotes for the boat have failed due to the boat's age and issues noted in the 2018 purchase survey (most of which I have taken care of, but I haven't had another survey done). Nathan S/V Wisper 1981 C&C 34 KCB Lynn MA On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 8:14 AM David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > Nathan....who did the work? > > Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Nathan Post > via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 6:30:11 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Cc:* Nathan Post <nathan8...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Buying a C & C 32 > > On my C&C 34 I had a rigger who does rod rigging go through the rig and > inspect it and re-end all the rods and he replaced two of them. Rods can > last a very long time but the ends need to be inspected for cracks and in > my case most of them were seized into the fittings so inspection of the > ends wasn’t possible. Some of the hardware couldn’t be reused and we > replaced the turnbuckle treaded studs as a precaution (Some had to be > longer to make up for the shorter rod lengths after reending). Along with a > new furler and headstay which was damaged by the old furler when the foil > failed under the swivel this ran $12k USD Including labor. I think the > forstay, new halyards and furler, and mast head sheaves were about half of > that and the rest was the rod work. > Anyway if you have rod rigging it is something to consider instead of > completely replacing everything. Not sure if your insurance will be ok > with that but if you can get a rig inspection cert from the rigger > afterwards I would think they would be. Still expensive but likely less > then a complete new set of standing rigging and I have more confidence that > my rig is ready for another 40 years (much of it was likely original > although I don’t know for sure). Makes for good peace of mind anyway. > > Nathan > > - - > Nathan Post > S/V Wisper > 1981 C&C 34 KCB > Lynn, MA USA > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > >
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