Well written, Chuck. I appreciate thus thread since this type of project is
on my radar of things to do. (Pun intended)

Regards,
Brian
1980 Landfall 38SL (hull # 068)
West Palm Beach, FL

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 10:10 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Shawn,
>
> I worked at Edson for many years and we sold both mast and pole mounted
> solutions for radar.  As such, I would get lots of feedback regarding the
> benefits and down sides of fixed vs. tilt arrangements along with the
> location.  I’ve also got an ancient Raytheon 1200 series radar and dome on
> Half Magic (Landfall 35) on an equally ancient fixed mast mount.
>
> So to start, there’s always the issue of sail damage while tacking with a
> mast mount.  Even if you put a “guard” around the radome, you’ll always get
> some contact when tacking.  Should your sail be one of those black jobs or
> a nifty molded sail that costs upwards of a college tuition, I would
> generally pass on mounting the dome on a mast.  The other aspect of lofting
> the dome 25’ above the deck is the loss of radar “vision” when maneuvering
> through a crowded harbor in the fog.  If the red nun that you’ve tracked on
> the screen disappears at 50 yards distance because your radar looks “over”
> the object, that can be a bit problematic.  Fortunately for us, Half
> Magic’s dome is mounted at the spreader (only one set on the boat) and
> that’s only about 15’ above the deck.  If I upgrade the radar I’m thinking
> I will probably install the dome on a pole that can serve double duty as a
> lifting hoist for the dinghy outboard.  We ain’t getting any younger!
>
> The pole too has some limitations, specifically with the mast creating a
> blind spot on the screen.  I don’t know if I spend enough time sailing in
> low visibility situations to justify a self levelling system.  Most of the
> time when I need radar (fog, nightime), I’m not heeled over and more times
> than not, motoring.  In part that is because my radar sucks so much power
> (an old CRT display mounted at the Nav Station) that I can run down the
> batteries very easily if I use the radar for hours on end.  The issue of
> work hardening the wires on a self levelling gimbled unit is quite valid.
> Copper wire doesn’t like to be bent repeatedly and replacing cables every
> few years doesn’t sound attractive to me.  Several folks have had issue
> with disassembly of back stay mounts every time they unstep the mast.
>
> I guess there’s issues with every solution, you just need to prioritize
> what you think would be better on Calypso.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Chuck Gilchrest
>
> S/V Half Magic
>
> 83 Landfall 35
>
> Padanaram, MA
>
>
>
> *From:* Shawn Wright <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 4:50 PM
> *To:* Stus-List <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Radar mounting options
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> During the rendezvous, there was a brief discussion about radar and
> mounting options. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts and experiences
> with radar, and which mounting location (mast, backstay, or on pole/arch
> aft of cockpit) you prefer, and why.
>
>
>
> Our 35 had a radome mounted on a pole just off centre from aft deck,
> supported by the pushpit rail. It had been removed when we bought her, and
> now with larger solar panels, I'm not sure this is a good location due to
> shading issues (although I might be able to resolve this with a re-designed
> arch, or push it far enough aft to prevent shading the panels.
>
>
>
> I've seen a few backstay mounts, but haven't looked closely at them. I
> imagine there will be some shading issues, but perhaps a bit less depending
> on how high the radome is mounted.
>
>
>
> Mast mounting seems fairly straightforward with the right bracket, and
> since I am planning to pull my mast soon for a re-wire and inspection, I
> will have a good opportunity to explore this option.
>
>
>
> My dock neighbour has his on a pole, and removes it for racing or when not
> needed, so this is one advantage of pole or backstay mounting - easy
> removal. I probably would leave it on for year round sailing, but would
> likely take it with us to our next boat unless the buyer specifically wants
> it.
>
>
>
> As far as brand, I went with a B&G Vulcan 9 package with wind, compass and
> DST, so this means I will need a Navico unit: 3G, 4G or Halo (Simrad,
> Lowrance or B&G).
>
>
>
> Although we've only had perhaps 5-6 days in the past two seasons where
> radar would have been useful, with a planned trip around Vancouver Island
> from June-August of 2021, we anticipate some foggy (or smoky) days in
> waters that will be a bit more challenging, and also new to us.
>
>
>
> Would love to hear your thoughts...
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> --
>
> Shawn Wright
>
> [email protected]
>
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
>
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
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