I’m assuming you race in an area with enough wind to power the boat with a 110%. Here on Lake Ontario, regular summer night beer can racing is often a drifter, and a 110 is the kiss of death. Suit the sails to the prevalent conditions. If a 110% is your go-to sail, you have to be in a windy area. If it’s moderate with some light air days, consider a 135 that you can partially furl at the very least. In light air locations, the best bet is a 155% with a back up smaller sail.
From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <[email protected]> Reply-To: Stus-List <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 11:01 AM To: Stus-List <[email protected]> Cc: ALAN BERGEN <[email protected]> Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind When I changed from a 155 to a 135 genoa, I gained six seconds in PHRF with no significant change in speed. Next I changed to a 110% genoa. I gained another three seconds, slight decrease in speed, but I was able to point five degrees higher. I was able to point higher than everyone else in the fleet, getting to the windward mark a lot sooner than before switching to a 110. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:48 AM Debbie Jeffcoatt via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: We race a 80's C&C 37 on Lake Ontario, club races with crew plus a double handed seriers and switched to a #2 (135%) several years ago, that was built to roll down to # 3 if needed. Our PHRF was adjusted for the smaller head sail. We still have the large # 1, but haven't used it since. Tacking time is a lot quicker and much easier when double handed. Glayva won Boat of the Year in 2019 with our great crew and this sail. Our motivation to purchase the # 2, came from a C&C 35 racer in Kingston area. Debbie Glayva II C&C 37 On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 5:49 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: Or keep your old patched 155 and use the 140 for the slightly breezier days and forego the reef From: Rod Stright via CnC-List <[email protected]> Sent: February 9, 2021 5:30:15 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: Rod Stright Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails, new wind Would you get a PHRF adjustment credit by moving to a 135% Roller Furling headsail? Rod Stright Halifax From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <[email protected]> Sent: February-09-21 12:23 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Stus-List New sails, new wind Hello all listers. I have a hypothetical for the racers among you. I need to replace my 3DL headsail--its mostly patches after ~ 5 years of club racing locally. This is about my 3rd laminate style headsail---and my last! I am probably going with the North 3D Nordac which has replaced the former 3DL technology with what they call a composite sail--not laminated but still built over a 3D mold of the sail shape desired--if I understand this correctly. I do not need the super light and costly Raw or Endurance. Anyhow, I plan to move to a new sailing area off Southport, NC near Bald Head Island at the mouth of the Cape Fear River--basically on the NC coast. All my club racing to date has been in the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers, occasionally racing to Ocracoke across the Pamlico Sound. For these areas, a 155% headsail is the largest you can race with locally without penalty and so that is what I have always used. The North sail maker suggested because of the higher coastal winds that I may not need a 155% since the wind strength is higher at the coast. OTOH, a racer there uses a 155% headsail and says he does well with it. I checked the historical average wind speed for Southport and New Bern and the coastal winds are from 20-25% higher than at New Bern. For instance, the avg. wind speed varies from 5.5-8.1 knots in New Bern vs. about 7-10 knots in Southport, or about 25% higher on average. Further, I know from experience that my masthead rig becomes seriously overpowered once the wind gets greater than about 12 knots true, when its time to reef the main(I only have 1 reef point) and if it goes above ~ 15 knots, I need to roll the headsail a few turns (or change down to a 135% or 90% headsail). I am not inclined to go less than the 155% allowed locally (PHRF) but maybe I should--the local North guy suggested ~ 140%. This might better match the local wind and is less expensive since less material is used. OTOH, I don't want to be under canvassed on the light air days. Further, there is the question of sail material weight to consider. I plan for this to be my last headsail purchase and may use it some for local cruising in addition to club racing. BTW, it will be used on a furler either way. So what would the listers do!! Charlie Nelson 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb Water Phantom Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu -- Debbie Jeffcoatt cell 416-251-2650 Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.paypal.me/stumurray__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!5WCfoG1FBnS8Rky_8rl9bJJTsfYXaQXKFpIrY6337TgI0SH2MOMFyQS3XKaomxIm994$ Thanks - Stu Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
