Agree Dwight, You remind me of other reasons why a second person makes such a huge difference during an emergency. The second person can double check strategy, weather, evaluate new tactics, etc.
Chuck > On 02/10/2021 5:36 PM dwight veinot via CnC-List <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > A really good race is a seamanship race. Tests navigational skills and > emergency skills even man overboard as well as sailing skills and learning > charts > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 6:09 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < > [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > Hey David, > > > > Good luck organizing your club's racing. > > > > I used to be heavily involved with CHESSS, an organization on > > Chesapeake Bay for "Shorthanded Sailors". The leader of CHESSS convinced > > every yachtclub on the bay to allow CHESSS to race in their own class and > > every regatta or Wed night event offered that, but it combined double > > handed and solo racers. I found racing my boat solo against double handed > > boats to be as difficult as racing against a fully crewed boat. Each race > > had a boat entered with two expert skippers and each could easily do any > > chore without a word. They raced on a drysailed J-105 with new sails. > > They were each National Champions in J-105. The results were loaded and > > predictable short of devine intervention, and they lead every race. > > > > A solo sailor has to do everything alone and if anything goes > > wrong, has to disengage from actually racing competitively and sort out the > > problem and solve it on his own. Sometimes a weekend race can turn to > > survival mode. Imagine if a the autohelm dies or an important schackle > > opens up or there is an override on a winch. A doublehanded boat has a > > person who is running the boat and a second person who can act as a floater > > to fix things if problems crop up and that's unfair to a solo racer. A > > second person can focus on the problem while the other guy steers and and > > maintains a competitive course. I'm not complaining, that's the attraction > > of solo sailing. > > > > Andrew Evans wrote the bible on singlehanded sailing/racing and > > concluded the PHRF handicap should be increased by 13 seconds. > > https://www.sfbaysss.org/resource/doc/SinglehandedTipsThirdEdition.pdf > > That's the amount of time loss from tacking and gybing sails alone, > > unassisted. I think it makes sense, but no yacht club ever considered > > changing our PHRF ratings. They simply took our entry money and and > > allowed us to race in a separate class. > > > > One of our CHESSS officers did some testing and made a record of > > sailing manuevers w crew vs solo and he came up with even more time. He > > came up with 20 secs based on delays doing tacks and gybes alone. > > > > If I got 13 seconds, I'd feel better about racing fully crewed > > boats. > > > > Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/10/2021 9:32 AM David Knecht via > > CnC-List < [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, there is only one “short-handed” race all > > > season in my area and that is a double-handed one day event. There are > > > no single/double entry categories in any ECSA events. I have brought up > > > the issue with the ECSA a number of times but got no traction. It will > > > likely be the top of my priority list when I retire and have more time. > > > I am in charge of racing for our club this year, so may try it for some > > > events and see what response I get. Dave > > > > > > S/V Aries > > > 1990 C&C 34+ > > > New London, CT > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 10, 2021, at 9:24 AM, > > > dwight veinot via CnC-List < [email protected] > > > mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > Does the PHRF in your area adjust for deficiencies in > > > > crew and crew work. In some clubs that may happen based on results from > > > > one series to the next but even that assumes your crew is constant and > > > > any improvement in results will relate to the crew getting better. > > > > Still it’s a rather arbitrary adjustment. If you fleet race solo or > > > > double handed you may deserve more favourable adjustment for crew > > > > deficiencies than you get for sail inventory. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 9:36 AM David Knecht via > > > > CnC-List < [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting > > > > discussion. When I got new string sails a few years ago, I opted for a > > > > 145 and a 110 genoa. I raced for several years with small crew (3-4) > > > > with the 145 and only put on the 110 in the Fall when it was predicted > > > > to blow hard all day. Last year, I raced solo all season due to Covid > > > > and so got re-rated for the 110 (PHRF 121 went to 133). I was > > > > definitely not as fast, but it was sooooo much easier to handle the > > > > boat and so much more fun. I have raced solo with the 145 and it was a > > > > killer. I remember once on a 10-15 day just not being able to get the > > > > genoa winched in the whole way by the last beat (I was ready to add > > > > electric winches!). With the 110, I did some long all day races solo > > > > with 25 knot winds and had a blast. On light days, it took even more > > > > concentration than normal to keep the boat going with the 110, but I > > > > did not feel slow, given the rating boost. IMHO, light air is about > > > > technique more than sail area. I thought I would get hurt more > > > > downwind than upwind by the small genoa (non-spinnaker racing) but that > > > > did not seem to be the case. I did not finish as well overall as > > > > previous years, but I think that was as much due to being solo as it > > > > was to the smaller sail. In heavier air, unless you have 6 bodies on > > > > the rail (which I never have), I don’t think the larger sail really has > > > > benefits. You are just overpowered all the time. So presuming you get > > > > the PHRF benefit of a smaller sail, I would not hesitate to err on the > > > > smaller side. Isn’t that what PHRF is supposed to do- equalize your > > > > competitiveness given your setup? Dave > > > > > > > > > > S/V Aries > > > > > 1990 C&C 34+ > > > > > New London, CT > > > > > > > > > > <pastedGraphic.tiff> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed > > > > > to the list to help with the costs involved. 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