Stus-List Re: 36' wheel to tiller conversion?

[Bob Tallman via CnC-List]

In my opinion it distill down to 2 elements:

1) preference between wheel and tiller.  Several J35?s were tiller based.

2) overall design.  Quadrant mount, rack pinion arms exhibit less stress loads since they are oriented at differing rudder shaft positions.  A tiller adds a 36-40 inch lever to the top of the post.  Question 1 comes down was the steering design setup to accommodate the top load (which to me would be minor since the post has to be supported to prevent the loads generated by water pressure below.  Question 2 would be swing space in the cockpit overall.  If the emergency tiller is located with a surface access on the combing then it will be similar to the j35.  If cockpit floor, could be an issue with formed seating etc?. That one is probably something you have already thought out, but just tossing it out there.

My only other thought would be engine controls and electronics?  Re-routing can end up being a royal PITA, thus i hate to say it, perhaps the overall changeover and redesign may not be worth it.  Also puts the resale ?value? of the boat into a very focused set of potential owners.  So??..  hate to say it???.  Do you sell what you have and buy what you ultimately want?

BT

C&C 121 Express

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 4:16 PM jacob fuerst via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

It's currently chain and cable not hydraulic but I definitely feel the wheel load up in reverse and if you're not careful could whip a tiller over

Jacob Fuerst
303-520-4669

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 9:41 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

When using the engine there is a lot of torque on the tiller.  I suspect a hudraulic wheel system would be much easier to operate.

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From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Subject: Stus-List Re: 36' wheel to tiller conversion?

 

I used to sail my 35 with a tiller when it was raining until I got an autopilot. The tiller allowed me to get under the dodger.

I cannot see how the rudder stock would be under any more or less strain than with the wheel.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

 

From: jacob fuerst via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Subject: Stus-List 36' wheel to tiller conversion?

 

Hi All,

 

Just thinking through converting my 1978 36 wheel to tiller. It seems very simple. The rudder stock is accessible on the cockpit floor and has a 1 1/4" square head where the emergency tiller goes. Many considerations but my question to you is if the factory floor and head and bearing construction are sufficiently strong to handle the regular forces of tiller steering or only for the forces to be through the quadrant below deck?

 

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