C&C Listers, I have only been casually following this thread, but just a short comment. My pedestal bolts are SS and in fresh water of L. Mich. Might have been PO who replaced? No issues. Aluminum is actually a very reactive metal. This is a good discussion for a chemist, but if exposed to salt water, it would seem that aluminum bolts are not the best choice. If there is concern about the dissimilar metals of the pedestal and bolts, isolate with nylon washers. My 2 cents. Jeff Laman 1981 C&C34 "Harmony" Ludington, MI
________________________________ From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 10:38 AM To: Stus-List <[email protected]> Cc: John McCrea <[email protected]>; CHARLES SCHEAFFER <[email protected]> Subject: Stus-List Re: Edson Steering Sheave Assembly Bolt Failure. Not sure why the the aluminum failed. It sounds like it became an anode somehow. In 2015, I replaced our pedestal bolts and nuts with aluminum ones from Edson. On our model, the hex head of the bolt, sits in a hex sided well in the pedestal base so it doesn't turn. You tighten the nuts from below. The old bolts might have been reused, but something about them worried me, so I chose to use new bolts and nuts. I learned later that McMaster-Carr has both aluminum and stainless which you can get next day, so you may want to compare prices. Chuck Scheaffer Resolute 1989 C&C 34R Annapolis On 11/20/2021 10:08 AM John McCrea via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: Yes they are the four through bolts that hold the pedestal in place. I will contact Edson for replacements just curious if anyone else had them fail. Will also be resealing pedestal to stop water intrusion. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2021, at 8:02 AM, Steve Thomas via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: I believe that the bolts in question are the through-the-deck bolts that secure the pedestal to the deck. They are also the only aluminum bolts that I know of that were once "standard" on Edson pedestal steering systems. If I am wrong on the latter, I am certain that others will chime in. :) Steve Thomas 1980 C&C36 MKI 1978 C&C27 MKIII ------ Original Message ------ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 8:42 PM Subject: Stus-List Re: Edson Steering Sheave Assembly Bolt Failure. Can you share any photos of the bolts in question? Are these above deck, or below? I'm not aware of any aluminum bolts in my pedestal, but they may have been replaced with stainless steel. There is one SS round head machine screw that is loose and has no material left to grab (threads stripped out) on one of the aluminum pieces which fit over the SS tubing at the deck level. As the pedestal is solid, I've ignored it for now. Everything below deck looks good also, but it's been a year since I checked so it's on the list. -- Shawn Wright [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FSVCallisto&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc18f51fe264a41b4946108d9ac3bf0be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637730195708925529%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=tkWG50%2FAj45GD8T6gZuw0P%2Boxf21uzjJCYV8wgJ5v6Q%3D&reserved=0> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 1:19 PM John McCrea via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: All, I was aware that my bolts in my steering assembly below the pedestal were failing when I noticed a gap on the bow side of the sheave assembly this summer. After trying to tighten one of the aluminum bolts it crumbled. Had two remaining good ones in the stern and limped the way through the remainder of the season. Today loosened the steering cables to start to take apart the assembly with the intent of fixing in place with new bolts. Having had a similar but more catastrophic failure on our past 1989 37/40 XL I can see that the assembly itself is in good shape. My question is the use of the aluminum bolts. Since that is what failed should I switch to stainless? May be a good question for Rob Ball but wanted to see what others have used. Thanks! John McCrea Talisman 1979 36-1 Mystic, CT Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. 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