Butyl tape

On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 11:39 AM Matthew via CnC-List <[email protected]>
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> Listers:
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> FYI, while trying to determine what caused water infiltration into the
> balsa core above the water line up forward (the last place that hasn’t been
> repaired), a few days ago we identified the fittings securing the forestay
> chainplate as the likely culprit.  Although I’m sure there are more
> accurate names, the two fittings work together to make a stemhead fitting.
> One fitting runs vertically on the uppermost portion of the bow, just below
> the deck, and has the forestay chainplate (looks like a large tang) welded
> on it.  The forestay chainplate/tang comes through a slot cut into the
> deck.  The second fitting is bolted onto the deck and has a slot for the
> chainplate/tang at the forward end and some hardware to connect jib tacks
> at the aft end.
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> We believe there are two issues at work that caused water infiltration: 1)
> the lower set of bolts holding the chainplate/tang fitting were drilled
> through the uppermost area of balsa core, thereby providing a pathway to
> the core if not properly sealed (which they were not); and 2) the deck
> fitting that fits around the chainplate/tang was allowing water in
> (probably a lot over the years).  When we removed the deck fitting, we
> discovered that it was originally installed about ¾” aft of where it should
> have been.  This was immediately obvious because the originally drilled
> holes and the aft portion of the slot where the chainplate/tang comes
> through the deck had been re-glassed.  We then realized that the forward
> portion of this fitting had been modified to fit the more forward location
> (the forward rectangular corners had been cut off so the fitting/plate
> would fit).  We also noted that the slot for the chainplate/tang was not
> centered, with the tang pushing against the deck opening on the port side
> while leaving a 3/16” or so gap on the starboard side.  We widened the slot
> on the port side to accommodate sealant.
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> We will be putting everything back together when it warms up a few
> degrees.  We are debating what sealant to use for the deck fitting,
> particularly in the slot around the chainplate/tang.  My expert is thinking
> Sikaflex 295.  What say you?
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> Matt
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> C&C 42 Custom
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> *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2022 2:50 PM
> *To:* Stus-List <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Dennis C. <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Chainplate Sealing - now sealants in general
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> Some thoughts on sealants.  Sealants are primarily silicone, polysulfide,
> polyurethane and blends of them.  Add to that butyl rubber.
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> First, as a rule, I like butyl for any hardware that has the potential to
> flex or move.  Chainplates fit that criteria.
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> My default sealant for most everything else except plastic is LifeSeal.
> For plastic I generally use silicone.
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> Here's a reference for where to use sealants:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/12WmFxRiqzUw2xiqLaEtfBpS1pYocZID-/view?usp=sharing
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> Note that Life Calk is a polysulfide.  Do not use polysulfide for plastic.
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> LifeSeal is a blend of silicone and polyurethane.
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> 4200 is polyurethane.  I don't use 4200.  Got too many partially cured
> tubes.  Look at the expiration date before you buy.
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> 5200 is NOT a sealant.  It's an adhesive.  From the 3M website:
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> "3M™ Marine Adhesive Sealant 5200 is a one-component, high-strength,
> moisture-curing, gap-filling polyurethane for permanent bonding of wood,
> gelcoat and fiberglass."  Note the word "permanent"!
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> A bit off the subject, but Flexpaste seems to fix gouges in rubber rub
> rails fairly well.  Who'd a thunk it?  An "as seen on TV product" that
> actually works on a boat!
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> --
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touche' 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
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