On 02/08/2010 05:07 PM, Jonathan Sabo wrote:
> I think its a good idea to try and further the configuration
> management capabilities in cobbler.  I don't see doing that as
> reinventing the wheel.  If you can replace the need to set up a
> separate run time configuration management system, awesome.  I would
> prefer to build fully configured systems as part of the provisioning
> process over having to setup another system to do runtime
> configuration management if at all possible. I think a better work
> flow is to update your provisioning system (cobbler) and rebuild and
> reboot into a fully configured system.  Do you disagree?

My concern with the original pitch of the idea, which has been addressed
already, was two-fold.

One was the danger of re-inventing the wheel, which is obviously a
choice anyone has to make for themselves. Sometimes in order to be able
to move forward a giant leap, one has to make a step or two backwards.
I'm the first person to understand that I just didn't see the point in
this case -again, based on the original pitch of the idea.

The other concern was the need to manage the configuration of a node
during the runtime stage of a node's life cycle as well, not just during
the provisioning stage or during the bootstrapping. Again from the
original proposal, I didn't feel that was sufficiently addressed. Now
that we all know more about Kelsey's intentions with MadHatter, this is
less of a concern to me.

Whether MadHatter is a poll, pull or push mechanism doesn't truly
concern me, nor does it concern me whether it is platform-independent
(but for that one proprietary software company's operating system
product series).

Again, Kelsey has already addressed both; My concerns were based on the
original proposal, I just so happen to disagree and I feel I've made my
argument to the extent that I can. Maybe that's just because of my
fortunate disposition that I have, finding Puppet extremely easy to work
with.

Luckily, Kelsey has found use in my responses and is going to clarify /
has cleared up what it is exactly he's after on aforementioned Wiki page.

Win/win as far as I'm concerned ;-)

-- Jeroen
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