I have added some more notes and code snippets to the MadHatter github. I
have not had a chance to organize it all though as I am working to get the
rest of the prototype integrated into the Cobbler code base. So far this has
been a breeze. The code is really nice to work with, and integrating the API
is turning out to be a hugh success so far.

I am currently doing some local testing and plan to release an alpha
snapshot in the coming weeks.



On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 02/08/2010 05:07 PM, Jonathan Sabo wrote:
> > I think its a good idea to try and further the configuration
> > management capabilities in cobbler.  I don't see doing that as
> > reinventing the wheel.  If you can replace the need to set up a
> > separate run time configuration management system, awesome.  I would
> > prefer to build fully configured systems as part of the provisioning
> > process over having to setup another system to do runtime
> > configuration management if at all possible. I think a better work
> > flow is to update your provisioning system (cobbler) and rebuild and
> > reboot into a fully configured system.  Do you disagree?
>
> My concern with the original pitch of the idea, which has been addressed
> already, was two-fold.
>
> One was the danger of re-inventing the wheel, which is obviously a
> choice anyone has to make for themselves. Sometimes in order to be able
> to move forward a giant leap, one has to make a step or two backwards.
> I'm the first person to understand that I just didn't see the point in
> this case -again, based on the original pitch of the idea.
>
> The other concern was the need to manage the configuration of a node
> during the runtime stage of a node's life cycle as well, not just during
> the provisioning stage or during the bootstrapping. Again from the
> original proposal, I didn't feel that was sufficiently addressed. Now
> that we all know more about Kelsey's intentions with MadHatter, this is
> less of a concern to me.
>
> Whether MadHatter is a poll, pull or push mechanism doesn't truly
> concern me, nor does it concern me whether it is platform-independent
> (but for that one proprietary software company's operating system
> product series).
>
> Again, Kelsey has already addressed both; My concerns were based on the
> original proposal, I just so happen to disagree and I feel I've made my
> argument to the extent that I can. Maybe that's just because of my
> fortunate disposition that I have, finding Puppet extremely easy to work
> with.
>
> Luckily, Kelsey has found use in my responses and is going to clarify /
> has cleared up what it is exactly he's after on aforementioned Wiki page.
>
> Win/win as far as I'm concerned ;-)
>
> -- Jeroen
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