SeEtta, COBirds,

I agree with your opening disclaimer and I should say that my post was 
simply an observation I thought some people may find interesting, as I 
did.  To further clarify, my mention of the highest previous elevation I 
had seen this species at was purely anecdotal and did not involve 
searching through RMBO's or anyone else's data.  That being said, your 
question, and the paper you linked to, bring up some interesting 
points.  Habitats do grow, shrink and shift their distribution over time 
and this will affect birds' distributions.

Because habitats are not static is one reason RMBO, together with CDOW 
and the USFS, developed a new study design for long-term monitoring of 
avian populations.  Previously, we had our longterm monitoring stations 
(point-transects) distributed within certain pre-identified habitat 
types.  A shortcoming of this design was that habitats can shift away 
from the transect locations and new locations must be selected.  The new 
design allows habitats to shift while the monitoring stations stay put.  
Habitat information is collected at each station during the field season 
and the data is post-stratified (grouped together after the fact) back 
to habitats.  This way, we can track changes in vegetation composition, 
structure and associated avian communities without requiring the 
relocation of monitoring stations.  That's the nutshell version.  I'd be 
happy to point interested parties to a more scientific explanation of it.

To get back to the question of elevation; we do have elevation data 
associated with our monitoring stations and they are well distributed 
across the state and across elevations ranging (roughly) from 4,000' to 
12,500'.  We are now looking at habitat relationships although I am not 
sure if elevation will be included in this go around (I do not work with 
the Monitoring Program very much), but climate-related changes to the 
landscape certainly have our attention.  The great majority of the 
monitoring work we do is defined by contracts we have with state and 
federal agencies, so we are often limited by funding in what questions 
we have the time and resources to answer.  However, I do know that 
addressing the roll that climate plays in avian communities on large 
geographical and temporal scales is something that RMBO has interest in 
and elevation is an important variable in that dynamic.

To see monitoring locations, distribution maps based on our field data, 
to query our raw data, or to see species accounts, follow the links at 
the top of this page:
http://www.rmbo.org/public/monitoring
This site is a work in progress and data from the new design (Colorado 
2008, and CO, WY, MT, AZ 2009) should be integrated later this fall.

Sorry for the long-winded reply,

Greg Levandoski
Biologist, International Program
Rocky Mountain Bird Observatory
Fort Collins, CO 80521
Visit us at:
http://www.rmbo.org
http://www.facebook.com/RMBObirds





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