Hi Mike,

I have been studying and documenting birds for the past two years on the HP
Campus and Ute Valley Park in El Paso County. One of my biggest surprises
was the range of mimicry of the lesser goldfinch - of which there have been
many each summer in the area. They seem to mimic every bird in the area with
very few exceptions. If this is due to mimicry-by-association, then your
lesser goldfinches must have spent some time with the bobwhites somewhere.

I did research in BNA on this, and their treatment of the goldfinches
matches my experience over the past two years. This "...characteristic is
shared with lawrence's, but not with Pine Siskins or Am goldfinches. ...
Remsen et al. (1982) reported mimicry of at least 30 other species by Lesser
Goldfinches in CA. 39 species in AZ including a rock squirrel."

They nest later in the season than most species, often timing to coincide
with thistle blooming for nest material and then seeds after fruiting. I
have a nest on the HP campus that should have hatched young last week
sometime.

Let us know if you are ever able to confirm this one way or the other.

Jeff J Jones
[email protected]

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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:57 PM
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Subject: [cobirds] Question re: Lesser Goldfinches/ Northern Bobwhite


During the past month several of us have heard the "bobwhite call" in  
Bear Creek Lake Park.  This morning Rob Raker and I heard it several  
times, went to the vicinity of the call, were unable to track down the  
source of the call, then played a tape of the Northern Bobwhite (with  
no response).   After listening carefully to the "bobwhite call", then  
playing a tape, the actual call in the park seems clearer, sweeter,  
and just a phrase inserted into a song rather than an actual N.  
Bobwhite or a covey of birds.  In my five years of birding BCLP, I  
have never seen bobwhite in the park nor heard them before this summer.

My hunch is that we have Lesser Goldfinch imitating a bobwhite call,  
although I have been unable to confirm my suspicion.  I know that  
Lesser Goldfinch mimic the calls of other birds - does anyone out  
there have experience with Lesser Goldfinch imitating the "bobwhite  
call"?  I should also note that today as well as on one other  
occasion, there was a Catbird in the vicinity, but the "bobwhite call"  
seems too sweet for a Gray Catbird.  I also know that it's possible  
that someone released a Bobwhite into the park, but after this morning  
I don't believe that is the case.

I would welcome hearing from folks that might be able shed some light  
on the mysterious  "bobwhite call" we've been hearing in BCLP.

Thanks,

Mike Henwood
BCLP - Jefferson County
Morrison



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