Peter et al, 
The bird at Red Rocks was photographed by Steve Mlodinow, not me.  
Unfortunately I got no photos of the recent Crow Valley bird.  In his post, 
Steve said the Red Rocks bird was a good candidate for a hybrid between 
Red-backed and Gray-headed.  The other marks (besides the bill color feature 
you mentioned) stated in the literature are bill size (R-b a bit bigger than 
G-h) and pale throat and upper breast (that in R-b contrasts with the rest of 
the darker gray underparts, with G-h being uniformly gray underneath). 

Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins

Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:06:26 -0600
Subject: Re: [cobirds] status of "Red-backed" Junco in Colorado
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]

Doug & Cobirds,Since we're on the topic of Red-backed vs. Gray-headed Juncos, 
the field mark I've been relying on is bill color: single color for 
Gray-headed, bi-colored in the case of Red-backed. My question is whether this 
character is diagnostic or not? The Junco David photographed at Red Rocks was 
sporting a bi-colored bill...

Good birding,Peter BurkeBoulder, CO

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Doug Faulkner <[email protected]> wrote:

David,

The Colorado Bird Records Committee does not have any record for that 
subspecies and I am unaware of any extralimital reports for other states north 
of its range.  My understanding is that Red-backed Junco does very little (if 
any) seasonal movement in a way that would be considered migration.  However, 
species that might be grouped in that category, like Greater Roadrunner and 
Canyon Towhee, occur out of range more frequently (and at quite some distance) 
than their non-migratory status would imply.   Due to its similarity with 
Gray-headed Junco, it's conceivable for Red-backed Junco to have occurred in 
the state and gone unnoticed.



Thanks for bringing this topic to our attention.  I for one will be thinking 
about this possibility anytime I come across a "red-backed" junco on the 
eastern plains.

good birding,



Doug Faulkner
Arvada, CO



On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:30 PM, DAVID A LEATHERMAN <[email protected]> 
wrote:






The other day, buried amid a mixed-subject post, I asked (so far unanswered) if 
anyone on this listserv knows whether the so-called "Red-backed" Dark-eyed 
Junco has occurred in Colorado and/or whether it has any history whatsoever of 
occurring outside its normal range of Arizona to West Texas.  This subspecies 
is Junco hyemalis dorsalis and is considered distinct from our reddish-backed 
breeder in CO (aka the "Gray-headed Junco, J. h. caniceps).   I had a junco 
with a bright red back patch at Crow Valley the other day that "looked 
different" and it just got me to wondering about this junco subspecies.  Thanks.



Dave Leatherman
Fort Collins
                                          




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