Hi All, 
I'll throw in my two birds worth, Tropical Kingbird and Chuck-will's-widow. 
Steve Larson 

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From: "DAVID A LEATHERMAN" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected], "COBirds" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 5:59:11 PM 
Subject: RE: [cobirds] Two missing birds for CO. 

Gary, 
The only thing I would add to what has already been said is that of the 
resident passerines, perhaps only crossbills are more "hidden pea trick" from 
year to year than corvids. I think the common denominator here is a heavy 
reliance on conifer seeds. Since most conifers only have a good-to-bumper cone 
crop every 3-5 years, these bird groups, which are both highly nomadic as a 
direct consequence of their diets, don't really care if they hang out in an 
eBird hotspot. Factors which affect the cone crop are mostly weather related 
and involve the amounts, timing, and extremes of things like moisture and 
temperature. This can make some of the target corvids hard to find in certain 
seasons and years, except, as noted, at modified habitats like campgrounds, 
picnic areas, pull-offs and other human creations where handouts/scraps can be 
expected. The latter has apparently and unfortunately become an important diet 
supplement for mountain corvids. 

Dave Leatherman 
Fort Collins (presently in Lamar gawking at the water puddled or rushing in odd 
places like everybody else) 

PS - I vote for Rufous-backed Robin and Wheatear. 


Subject: Re: [cobirds] Two missing birds for CO. 
From: [email protected] 
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 10:58:33 -0600 
To: [email protected] 

To all who provided thoughts about the CLNU and GRJA — thanks! 

The ranger speculated that the late snow-melt meant that picnickers weren’t 
able to “draw” the birds to the picnic areas. 

Thanks for the eBird data. I didn’t have access to that up in the mountains — 
and hadn’t checked it since I returned home. 

Gary Brower 
Englewood, CO 

On Jul 15, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Jim Nelson < [email protected] > wrote: 




Prompted by Gary’s and Derek’s observations concerning Gray Jays and Clark’s 
Nutcrackers, I checked eBird for the Rocky Mountain National Park area for this 
year and past years. At least as far as reported observations in eBird, Clark’s 
Nutcrackers are being reported in and around RMNP this year in numbers 
comparable to past years, but Gray Jays aren’t being reported as much this year 
as in some past years. With more and more data, eBird is very useful for 
checking things like this. 
Jim Nelson 
Bethesda, Maryland 
From: Derek Hill 
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 11:30 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [cobirds] Re: Two missing birds for CO. 
To add to Gary's observation, I spent several days in the Fraser Valley, Grand 
Co. over the last month, and an afternoon tour through RMNP along Trail Ridge 
Rd., and throughout all the traveling, hiking, biking, and camping I was 
surprised at the lack of birds (and also no GRJA or CLNU in RMNP). Granted our 
drive through RMNP was pretty direct with no woodland hiking, and much of the 
time in Fraser Valley was spent with family and a wedding, but it was somewhat 
disappointing birdwise. Hardly needed to carry binocs for the lack of birds, 
and I wondered if it was the pine bark beetle damage. Though I have very little 
experience summer birding in the mountains and not sure if my perception of 
lack of birds is accurate for that locale/season. However with all the 
wildflowers, lepidoptera, other wildlife, and awesome scenery it took me a 
while to wonder where the birds were! 

Good birding, 
Derek Hill 
Fort Collins 

On Monday, July 14, 2014 8:03:34 PM UTC-6, Gary Brower wrote: 
<blockquote>
All, 

A different take on this thread. 

I spent the weekend in RMNP, and saw no/zero/nada/zip Gray Jays or Clark’s 
Nutcrackers. I talked a volunteer at Lake Irene; she had noticed the same 
thing. And I spoke with a ranger at Kawuneeche Visitor Center who had the same 
report. 

Any thoughts? (The ranger suspected it was because the snow melted so late.) 

Gary Brower 
Englewood, CO 

PS By the way, I did see two WTPT’s (perhaps male and female, as they were in 
pretty close proximity to one another) at the Rock Cut on Trail Ridge Rd, and a 
female-on-the-nest Broad-tailed Hummer at Lily Lake. 


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