Well said Dave and Eric.
I think that the numbskulls need to be outed and treated as the pariahs
they deserve to be.  If I'm doing something stupid like that I expect to be
called on it.  I hope the morons who are doing it here and other places get
called out in public.
Ira Sanders
Golden, CO

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Eric DeFonso <[email protected]> wrote:

> Austin,
>
> Please, do NOT blame yourself for the bad behavior of others. And please
> do NOT begin a habit of keeping outstanding birds like this American
> Woodcock to yourself the next time you, Fawn, or anyone comes across one.
> Just because one or perhaps several people do not understand or practice
> ethical birding behavior should not result in a complete swing of the
> pendulum of openness and sharing in the other direction. That would
> unfortunate, perhaps tragic. (The British have a term for not reporting
> one's rarity sightings, but it escapes me at the moment. If someone can
> remind me it, please do.)
>
> I for one do not want to bird in a community where the new norm is that no
> one shares their good fortunes with others. The problem in this case was
> not that you, as Dave put it, innocently shared the sighting on CoBirds.
> The problem is like Dave described, treating the habitat and the area as a
> zoo, or actually even worse than one (since when are you allowed to pester
> a hiding or secretive animal at a zoo just to see it, in the same way that
> some jerks bother the birds in the field?). It infests lots if not all
> extraordinary bird sightings in Colorado or pretty much anywhere else in
> the world, irrespective of the good intentions and unassailable character
> of people like yourself and Fawn.
>
> I am very grateful that you and Fawn found this bird and that you reported
> it, and that numbers of others have continued to provide updates on its
> presence and location. Because of generosity of spirit, I'm going to make
> an effort to look for this bird tomorrow morning (my first opportunity to
> do so), in much the same way I went to look for the Woodcock down at
> Fountain Creek last year. I failed to find it there, and I sincerely hope
> that a few people's numbskull behavior and selfish attitudes haven't
> already doomed my efforts to spot it.
>
> However, if I personally can't find this bird, I'll accept the outcome as
> just another example of the beauty and enigma of nature. I don't view the
> natural world or birds as *owing* me a tick on my lists, simply because I
> make an effort to look for them. When I can get that tick, sure, I'm
> thrilled and grateful, but if the woodcock decides to stay silent or out of
> view, or has moved to quieter creekbeds elsewhere, that's the breaks and
> I'll just have to wait until next time.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Austin Hess <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave...I'm very sorry if posting to COBirds when I found out was not
>> smart of me. I realize that it attracted such a large amount of people...I
>> probably should of known better. Too bad to hear that it has gone over the
>> line. I wish I would of thought over everything better and just kept the
>> bird to Fawn (who is a good friend of mine) and myself.
>>
>> Austin Hess
>> Fort Collins
>>
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