Cobirders,

A "Thank You" to the parties that posted the Great-crested Flycatcher 
sighting to eBird and documenting the record for further discussion.

I am not following the logic to Mark's original post because even if the 
bird had been posted to CObirds the minute it was seen it would have been 
simply noted as a Great-crested Flycatcher; a good sighting but not 
extraordinary nor would it have included a picture.  The posting to eBird 
documented the sighting with pictures and possibly established the second 
state record of a rarer species than originally thought when posted.

It should be noted the CObirds and eBird are two entirely different 
things.  Instead of the idea of one displacing the other it should be 
viewed as one augmenting the other.  Now birders have a wider array of 
information to learn about birds and their distribution from two sources.

Thirty years ago that information was only available in a monthly 
newsletter from the Denver Field Ornithologists (DFO) that arrived a month 
after the sightings.  Then DFO sponsored a recorded (on tape) bird sighting 
report that was available 24-7 assuming the administrator had updated the 
tape (which at times would be updated as many as eight or more times a day 
during the spring).  What progress!  How quaint!  How dated!  CObirds is an 
open forum that is used by everyone from beginners to experts and very 
accessible.  I can now be anywhere in the world and in thirty seconds or so 
on my phone view everything posted to both CObirds and eBirds allowing me 
to know more about the current status of birds in the State than was ever 
possible.

I do not have a problem saying that today's birders are spoiled by an 
embarrassment of riches.  Embrace them.  Use them.  Share the knowledge.  
Enrich the birding experience for *everyone.*  Show your passion!  Besides, 
in about five years all this will be obsolete anyways, and I cannot wait 
for what comes next!

Good Birding,

Steve Stachowiak
Highlands Ranch, CO

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 12:53:16 PM UTC-6, Mark wrote:

> Recently, I have noticed a trend of good to great chaseable birds not 
> being reported to CObirds but instead just added to the eBird checklist. 
> The reason for the email is that yesterday, a Great-crested Flycatcher was 
> reported from the Denver Botanical Gardens at Chatfield around 8:40 a.m. 
> After looking at the photos attached to the checklist, I'm struggling to 
> rule out a Brown-crested Flycatcher. The problem with this kind of 
> reporting is that you're not hearing about the bird until the next day. A 
> few weeks ago, a Tri-colored Heron was reported to CObirds and many people 
> were able to see the bird before it disappeared the following day. I'm not 
> trying to criticize a person's decision of reporting, because it is 
> ultimately their choice. I'm trying to get a better understanding of why 
> this trend is increasing so rapidly?
>
> Mark Chavez
> Lakewood-Green Mtn
> http://jaeger29.smugmug.com/
>

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