Thanks, David! I was hoping/waiting for you to weigh in. I know you are involved in both "worlds", so your input is helpful.
Gary Brower Englewood, CO Sent from my iPad Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:19 PM, David Suddjian <[email protected]> wrote: > > As an avid eBirder and regular CObirds poster, I agree that the two satisfy > different needs or purposes, but these overlap between the two outlets, too. > I don't principally use either for chasing purposes, as that is a not a main > interest for me, thus the immediacy is less a need. But I will note that a > CObirds post can be a good deal more informative about the birding experience > at a location, and offer much additional info that is lacking in the eBird > alerts or even on eBird checklists. It is easier to tell the story of the > birding experience via CObirds, or enjoy stories from others, and I like that > part. And easier to pose thoughts and delve into interesting questions. So > both are good outlets. > > The current membership of CObirds is 1,409 people, so it is hard to see that > as an insider thing. I think many birders seek out regional lists as a basic > sort of info and can fidn CObirds that way, and anyone discovering CFO or DFO > could also readily learn about CObirds. > > David Suddjian > Littleton, CO > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Steve Stachowiak <[email protected]> wrote: >> Cobirders, >> >> A "Thank You" to the parties that posted the Great-crested Flycatcher >> sighting to eBird and documenting the record for further discussion. >> >> I am not following the logic to Mark's original post because even if the >> bird had been posted to CObirds the minute it was seen it would have been >> simply noted as a Great-crested Flycatcher; a good sighting but not >> extraordinary nor would it have included a picture. The posting to eBird >> documented the sighting with pictures and possibly established the second >> state record of a rarer species than originally thought when posted. >> >> It should be noted the CObirds and eBird are two entirely different things. >> Instead of the idea of one displacing the other it should be viewed as one >> augmenting the other. Now birders have a wider array of information to >> learn about birds and their distribution from two sources. >> >> Thirty years ago that information was only available in a monthly newsletter >> from the Denver Field Ornithologists (DFO) that arrived a month after the >> sightings. Then DFO sponsored a recorded (on tape) bird sighting report >> that was available 24-7 assuming the administrator had updated the tape >> (which at times would be updated as many as eight or more times a day during >> the spring). What progress! How quaint! How dated! CObirds is an open >> forum that is used by everyone from beginners to experts and very >> accessible. I can now be anywhere in the world and in thirty seconds or so >> on my phone view everything posted to both CObirds and eBirds allowing me to >> know more about the current status of birds in the State than was ever >> possible. >> >> I do not have a problem saying that today's birders are spoiled by an >> embarrassment of riches. Embrace them. Use them. Share the knowledge. >> Enrich the birding experience for everyone. Show your passion! Besides, in >> about five years all this will be obsolete anyways, and I cannot wait for >> what comes next! >> >> Good Birding, >> >> Steve Stachowiak >> Highlands Ranch, CO >> >>> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 12:53:16 PM UTC-6, Mark wrote: >>> Recently, I have noticed a trend of good to great chaseable birds not being >>> reported to CObirds but instead just added to the eBird checklist. The >>> reason for the email is that yesterday, a Great-crested Flycatcher was >>> reported from the Denver Botanical Gardens at Chatfield around 8:40 a.m. >>> After looking at the photos attached to the checklist, I'm struggling to >>> rule out a Brown-crested Flycatcher. The problem with this kind of >>> reporting is that you're not hearing about the bird until the next day. A >>> few weeks ago, a Tri-colored Heron was reported to CObirds and many people >>> were able to see the bird before it disappeared the following day. I'm not >>> trying to criticize a person's decision of reporting, because it is >>> ultimately their choice. 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