Chip, Jeff, Charles, et al,

Thanks for the great info on the backgrounds of BirdNet and Merlin. I know that 
these will get better in time. 

Is there a way to let the Merlin-ites know of the false/problematic ID of the 
Pine Warbler (in my case), so that they can use that feedback to tweak things 
in subsequent releases?

Gary Brower
Unincorporated Arapahoe County



> On Jul 10, 2021, at 12:45 PM, Chip Clouse <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I ran into Andrew Spencer and Nathan Pieplow out on the Pawnee a couple of 
> weeks ago and Andrew basically said (if I understood correctly) that Birdnet 
> and Merlin were different teams of Cornell etc. researchers working on the 
> same question separately. He said Merlin should be more accurate than Birdnet 
> and will also get better with time. It only recognizes a limited number of 
> species currently and I've had it suggest crazy things way out of range. 
> Eventually it will be amazing and I'm already impressed.
> 
> Chip Clouse
> Erie, CO
> 
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 12:37 PM Gary Brower <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Thanks, Jeff.
> 
> I used Bird Net too, before Merlin.  I agree about Merlin’s interface being a 
> lot more user-friendly.    I wasn’t sure how to do the upload, though, so 
> your email was helpful.
> 
> BirdNet says Dark-Eyed Junco, with Chipping Sparrow second, and Flammulated 
> Owl third.  I’ll go with DEJU!
> 
> Interesting, that BirdNet was (is?) associated with Cornell, too . . . and 
> that they’d give such different results!
> 
> Gary Brower
> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Jeff Percell <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been using the Merlin Bird Sound app since it was first released in 
>> beta. I've found that while it's amazing, I've also seen several false IDs, 
>> particularly when there is some background noise such as wind. 
>> 
>> You also might try to upload the audio here, which is the API behind Bird 
>> NET, which is an app I was using prior to Merlin (which I've now switched 
>> over to Merlin because it's a lot more user friendly).
>> 
>> https://birdnet.cornell.edu/api/ <https://birdnet.cornell.edu/api/>
>> 
>> Also, you might upload your sound somewhere that makes it a little easier 
>> for others to view, such as an eBird checklist (which as the ID is in 
>> question, upload it as Passerine sp. initially). 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff Percell
>> Weld County
>> 
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 7:52:32 PM UTC-6 [email protected] 
>> <http://gmail.com/> wrote:
>> COBirders, 
>> 
>> Yesterday, I participated in David Hallock’s Indian Peaks Breeding Bird 
>> Count. My “area” was the Woodland Lake Trail (accessed from Hessie 
>> Trailhead, near Nederland). I kept hearing a bird that I couldn’t quite 
>> identify. It didn’t sound quite like a Chipping Sparrow or Dark-eyed Junco, 
>> so I thought I’d try the new Merlin Bird Sound app (which is amazing, I must 
>> say). Without hesitation, or providing any other suggestions, it identified 
>> the sound/bird as a Pine Warbler. Since eBird designates that bird as 
>> “rare”, I don’t want to say that that’s what it was, solely on the basis of 
>> the call. 
>> 
>> I have a recording that I’m happy to share, if someone would like to help me 
>> (and Merlin) make the right (pardon the pun) “call”. 
>> 
>> Thanks so much! 
>> 
>> Gary Brower 
>> Unincorporated Arapahoe County
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