Well said, Robin! I fit in the photographer-birder group and shoot with a 960mm (effective) lens on a 32.5 MP camera so I *don't* have to disturb the subject or place myself in danger.
Gary Bowen Thornton On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > Respectfully, you left out a category. Photographers who love to > photograph birds and do so ethically. I sincerely hope there are more of us > than the ones that behave as you describe. > > I just want people to understand that there are photographers out there > with big lenses that are not the “bad guys”. > > The reason I use a big lens is so that I can get a halfway decent photo > without intruding on the bird, or going where I shouldn’t. I will add, good > photographers know how to handle bad lighting. > > My husband and I chose NOT to look for the owl in question today precisely > because so many pictures of it were shared on social media recently, > suggesting way too many people were seeking it. > > Certainly, call out those who behave poorly. Just please don’t paint us > all with the same brush. > > Happy birding😊. > > Robin Jasper > > Loveland > > > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mel > Goff > *Sent:* Thursday, March 3, 2022 12:55 PM > *To:* DAVID A LEATHERMAN <[email protected]>; COBIRDS < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [cobirds] A situation (Boulder) > > > > In my experience, there are birders, birders who take photos of birds, and > photographers. The latter are all about the photo. Backlit? No problem. > I'll just crawl over this fence and go into the backyard so I can get the > perfect shot. Bird sitting on inner branches? No problem. I'll just crawl > up under the overhanging branches to get an open view. Private property? No > problem. I'll only be in their yard for a few minutes. > > > > I have seen this everywhere. Cutting in front of shorter folks for a > better angle. Driving on fragile habitat to get as close as possible. > Admittedly, this should not be an indictment of all photographers, amateur > or professional. But we all see enough of this that we must (and often do) > speak up. > > > > Mel Goff > > Colorado Springs, El Paso county > > > > On 03/03/2022 11:42 AM DAVID A LEATHERMAN <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > It has come to my attention that photographers, some of whom may be > birders, are causing a problem west of Lyons in their lust for a > pygmy-owl. At the risk of pissing some of you off, and causing even more > people to seek this bird by publicizing it, I ask for restraint. The > person who called me is not a birder but a guy I used to work with who > knows I am into birds. He owns property bordering Route 7 w of town where > he says 16 cars full of loud-talking people pointing big cameras, rutting > the right-of-way that he maintains are back again today, the way they have > been in numbers for days (weeks?). He is upset and I don't blame him. He > says that whoever these people are, they don't really care about the bird, > that they act very entitled, that this is all just about getting the photo > and social. In short these sorts of situations give birders a black eye > and they are becoming more commonplace. If anyone reading this knows about > the situation first hand, has been there, has a comment or rebuttal I can > pass on to my friend, I am all ears. My friend hasn't called the sheriff > yet but is about to and it makes me sad to think "we" might have caused a > reasonable person with deep sentiments for conservation and the natural > world to be so upset. > > > > Dave Leatherman > > Fort Collins > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Colorado Birds" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/cobirds?hl=en?hl=en > * All posts should be signed with the poster's full name and city. 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