On 17 Mar 2008, at 17:46, Hamish Allan wrote:

If you're cutting your programming teeth on Cocoa, you might find that
Python or Ruby is gentler.

I'm not sure I agree. Two problems for me.

* Cocoa isn't a seamless fit with either python or ruby, so there are little corner cases around that don't feel quite right. Method naming, for example, reads correctly in Objective C, but not in Python. In fact it can get quite confusing.

* The documentation for Cocoa on Python and Ruby is far less bountiful than for Objective C, so you end up reading Objective C documents and translating them to Python or Ruby.

I really like Python (in particular) as a teaching language, but I wouldn't teach cocoa with it.
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