Right, I agree, radarweb’s behaviour is pretty abominable, you can’t see 
anything at all going on.  But that doesn’t change the fact, making radars is 
the only way these things get fixed.  I’m glad to hear you’ve reported many 
already.  Please make more if you can think of unique things that IB is doing 
very wrong here :D

Tom Davie

On 20 Aug 2013, at 09:55, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:

> I have filed literally hundreds of bug reports. I get the spirit of what 
> you're saying, but I'm so stressed from this project (and IB's hand in it), 
> and so demoralized from having my bugs come back as either Duplicate, or 
> Behaves Correctly, or just stay Open forever, and finally, having to wait for 
> the next major release to see them fixed (rather than fixed in a dot 
> release), that it's getting nearly impossible to summon the will to write 
> more bugs.
> 
> 
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 00:51 , Tom Davie <tom.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> In general, please file a bug report at bugreport.apple.com.  For what it’s 
>> worth, I agree, and I don’t think IB should be doing anything at all to try 
>> and guess what constraints we want, or even to keep them consistent.  The 
>> spirit of the dev tools is to allow you to do whatever you want (even if 
>> it’s wrong), and to tell you when it’s wrong.  The unsatisfiable constraints 
>> should simply come up as errors/warnings when the xib is compiled.  This 
>> would lead to a whole lot less frustration when it comes to IB deciding to 
>> change everything you already set up simply because you added one extra view.
>> 
>> Tom Davie
>> 
>> On 20 Aug 2013, at 01:48, dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> In general in 4.x add your constraints that will make a satisfiable layout, 
>>> then remove the ones you don't want. 
>>> The next one does less trying without asking but this one is not that bad 
>>> if people follow the flow: add yours, remove theirs. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2013/08/20, at 7:40, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I want to create a view with size 74 x 74, containing three subviews, all 
>>>> centered on it. But IB is just a game of whack-a-mole. So angry.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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