On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > on 6/23/03 8:42 AM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: ..cut.. > > -> In the java, and to some extend the xml world, we have much, much > > much more code which was only touched 1-4 times by <= 2 people > > over time. > > this is another problem and, IMO, it's a cultural thing as well: java > people tend to like to reinvent the wheel, just because coding in java > is easy and the WORA religion is a powerful engine.
But if also take into account what Robert Buurrell Donkin just wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, robert burrell donkin wrote: > one interesting consequence of a general move within jakarta towards > extensive unit testing is that the time required to commit patches has > significantly increased. my experience now is that creating good unit > tests takes more than the time it takes to write the code. i'm also now > more aware that good documentation is crucial and spend more time creating > documentation. this increases the time required to review and approve Then perhaps my observation means absolutely nothing - and I should really try to get my mind around a fundamentally different development model (and some aspect you call WORA). > > -> the java world seems to need amazing number of indians (or > > committers) relative to lines of codes or bugs fixed. And seems > > to see more isolated pockets of people than the xml and other > > parts of the ASF. > > I don't get what you mean here, can you elaborate more? Actually - an extension of your Agora should propably be better at showing and modeling it; I was basically looking at commit-scope of people in a single code bases across projects. And had the impression that we see smaller scope activity, by more people relative to total project activity; and more often by people who only work on that part - but do not 'participate' in the larger architecture and structure. But the latter part is not really proper statistics. Let me try to back that up when I have some time. Dw